General Wrestling Thread

We've had these discussion about wrestling on this thread before, and in my experience it's something that you either "get" and love or "don't get" and are puzzled by. Most wrestling fans will tell that that wrestling is quite often terrible to the point of embarrassment, but when it's good it's great beyond any movie, book, game or TV show.

The biggest barrier to overcome is something that Max Landis has pointed out before; many don't really get that WWE RAW is a TV show about a wrestling show and not actually a wrestling show. In the same way that The Muppet Show was a TV show about them putting on a TV show so it allowed them to have all the backstage stuff but then also the "reality" of the show that they were putting on.

Though it's covered by ESPN and seen as part of the sports genre.

It's strange at how the fanbase is so different from other TV shows. It crosses both genders, all incomes and educational boundaries, all age groups and sexualities. The people who do these studies for US TV companies suggest that it has the broadest fanbase of any show and the fact that WWE is almost always one of if not THE highest rated show on the entirety of cable in the US. Just looking now and the Nielsen ratings for US cable show that out of the top 10 ratings by hour, WWE occupies 3 of the 10. This past Monday alone which isn't a very good time for WWE in terms of critical acclaim, it beat Better Call Saul, American Dad, Robot Chicken and Family Guy.

The way people who don't watch the show view it is a bit weird to people who do. You should watch the video
 
Think I've had enough of Live RAW.

Can never get through the three hours, and should just keep downloading/Sky+ing it.
 
Rey Mysterio killed a wrestler. Starts at about 6:15

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmieRklWdaE&t=395[/video]
 
I sat here for 2 hours watching this smackdown affair with my grandson on Sunday.
I wouldn't say that I was that into it but I was getting excited for him, he had the wrestling cards and books open in front of him as he explained the intricacies of the combatants and the special moves they had.
It was a little more jazzy than I remember of World Of Sport and Kendo Nagasaki and Mick Mcmanus :-)
 
Not watched wrestling since I was kid. Recently though I was video hopping on youtube and one of the suggested videos was 'Owen hart death' or something. (I wasn't watching anything questionable, who knows how this algorhythmic stuff works) I didn't click on it, as I remember it. But I felt the need to type in Royal Rumble. Had it on the Snes as a kid too. Great nostalgic stuff. Yokozooma and The Undertaker etc. That's when I stopped watching it. The 2015 Royal Rumble I didn't know any of the wrestlers.

I was never interested in the story lines. I just liked the little guy winning the big guy and the stunts and signature moves. The tombstone just looked so dangerous, and who was that guy who used to run, jump and bounce off the 2nd rope, flip backwards and land softly on his prostate opponent in the centre of the ring?

Anyway, Stone cold's Stunner was probably my fave. It just looked cool didn't it.
 
Not got Sky in my new flat so haven't been able to watch much since the Rumble. On paper the card looks good, if not predictable at times, for Mania. Will it be worth feeling like shit all day on Monday to watch it? Guessing Lesnar will beat Reigns and then Rollins will cash in his MITB to win the title?
 
Outside of the Battle Royal, for stupidly optimistic and selfish reasons, and HHH/Sting I can't say Mania looks too enticing to me personally.

Not even Taker's match has me pumped anymore. More so because I'm not a fan of how they've built it up rather than there being no streak. His entrance will be worth the watch as always. I think outside of Ambrose, I didn't watch their TLC match but I think Bray won, Bray hasn't gone over at a PPV; his gimmick is too rinse, repeat for too long.

I'd have preferred a somewhat similar build up to Rollins/Orton that they've done for HHH/Sting; where it all comes to the boil at Mania. They've done too many Orton/Rollins RAW matches in the build up imo.

But it's WrestleMania tbf so it's the law to watch it. If even just for HHH's entrance.
 
poorest Mania build-up I can remember.

It's to the point where I'm exactly most interested in Orton/Rollins, as that's been the best build, though they could have left Orton on the Authority till this week and had him explode in a turn to the PPV.

The only interesting part of Lesnar/Reigns is whether Rollins cashes in. Sting/HHH hasn't had nearly enough personal build and back and forth, it's almost like Vince is shying away because of the WCW element.

The rest of the card is non-descript. Fair enough putting more weight on the US/IC titles, but it kind of spoils the surprise element of those titles, and it does weaken guys like Cena/Bryan in my eyes, plus the build-up has just made it into squabbling, rather than having the personal, underlying hate reason for a feud that characterises Mania, it's all a bit soft this year, and Taker not turning up before hand just kills the build, we know he's accepted, so there's no reason not to turn up, it doesn't paint a great light on him and Wyatt has done pretty well to keep it afloat, but I don't see him winning and I find the whole Taker thing ridiculous now. If Wyatt loses he looks really weak, and if he wins it really devalues Taker and Lesnar's win last year and makes Taker completely pointless. It's just a poor build.
 
Its a bit shit to keep bringing back the old wrestlers to sell the PPV time and time again. Undertaker and Sting come on really whats the point. I like Bray hes going down. All you can hope is that it isnt a total burial of Bray. A win by DQ wouldnt be bad result for Bray if he lost.

The main event looks shit a real stinker. Brocks a beast but Reigns isnt ready for the run with the belt but he will win the title wrongly. Its building for the future granted but putting the belt on the wrong guy.

I am happy Cena is out of the main event makes the mid order stronger having Cena there and Bryan but they wont be there for long in my opinion. Cena will win and win easy be a walk over for him. Super Cena returns. There has to be a big heel turn on the main event.

I am pissed there isnt any next matches on it. Its on for 4 hours give or take you could of had 2 next matches on there and it wouldnt of been a lot of filler involving next.
 
leighton said:
Its a bit shit to keep bringing back the old wrestlers to sell the PPV time and time again. Undertaker and Sting come on really whats the point. I like Bray hes going down. All you can hope is that it isnt a total burial of Bray. A win by DQ wouldnt be bad result for Bray if he lost.

The main event looks shit a real stinker. Brocks a beast but Reigns isnt ready for the run with the belt but he will win the title wrongly. Its building for the future granted but putting the belt on the wrong guy.

I am happy Cena is out of the main event makes the mid order stronger having Cena there and Bryan but they wont be there for long in my opinion. Cena will win and win easy be a walk over for him. Super Cena returns. There has to be a big heel turn on the main event.

I am pissed there isnt any next matches on it. Its on for 4 hours give or take you could of had 2 next matches on there and it wouldnt of been a lot of filler involving next.
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Pure and simple, wrestling has had its day. Growing up in the late 90's and early 2000 means I was spoilt watching wrestling. I can only just about watch main events, buts that's about it.
 
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