George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I don't pretend to be able to understand why anyone of Hispanic heritage would want to vote Trump.
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Because, unfortunately, some people believe themselves to be superior to others. There was a couple who made the news in the US a couple of months after the 2016 election - white woman married to an undocumented Mexican, though he had been in the US without issues for nearly 20 years. She voted for Trump with the Mexican husband's support because they truly believed he would only send ICE after the "bad immigrants". Unfortunately for them, ICE do not differentiate between good and bad immigrants, even if Trump claims he does, so the husband was picked up and deported, and she was on the news crying about being discriminated against.
 
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somapop said:
I can imagine. The US is an incredible country. Intoxicating in many ways. I’ve been to San Francisco a couple of times and fell in love with the place. The country can dwarf you like no other though. Everything is bigger, louder, brasher. Always a tinge of menace in the air.
I was staying in Oakland (itself a pretty dangerous city) for a couple of weeks with distant family friends before jumping in a youth hostel/backpackers hotel in San Francisco 2 weeks later. Had a late one in Northbeach and inadvertently got locked out the house so had to sleep in a park with n Oakland one night.
Always a local murder on the news every night.
Felt like I could live there forever but then it I thought it would drive me mad
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@FogBlueInSanFran Of course we’ve conversed over San Francisco in the past...how is my favourite city doing? How are you mate?
Vesuvio’s back open yet!
 
somapop said:
I can imagine. The US is an incredible country. Intoxicating in many ways. I’ve been to San Francisco a couple of times and fell in love with the place. The country can dwarf you like no other though. Everything is bigger, louder, brasher. Always a tinge of menace in the air.
I was staying in Oakland (itself a pretty dangerous city) for a couple of weeks with distant family friends before jumping in a youth hostel/backpackers hotel in San Francisco 2 weeks later. Had a late one in Northbeach and inadvertently got locked out the house so had to sleep in a park with n Oakland one night.
Always a local murder on the news every night.
Felt like I could live there forever but then it I thought it would drive me mad
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In all honesty, I think US measures incredibly poorly in a lot of the metrics that truly matter - healthcare, education, gun culture, equal treatment etc, but it's wonderful in a million other ways, food, entertainment, general vibe, etc, hence why for a European like me, it's a perfect place to visit on holiday but it would take a lot of convincing to get me to live there.
 
Vialli98 said:
In all honesty, I think US measures incredibly poorly in a lot of the metrics that truly matter - healthcare, education, gun culture, equal treatment etc, but it's wonderful in a million other ways, food, entertainment, general vibe, etc, hence why for a European like me, it's a perfect place to visit on holiday but it would take a lot of convincing to get me to live there.
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each state is so different though
 
Vialli98 said:
In all honesty, I think US measures incredibly poorly in a lot of the metrics that truly matter - healthcare, education, gun culture, equal treatment etc, but it's wonderful in a million other ways, food, entertainment, general vibe, etc, hence why for a European like me, it's a perfect place to visit on holiday but it would take a lot of convincing to get me to live there.
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You are quite right. I to love the country and have been all over the West and SW states all the way across to N and S DaKota and from Maine down to Washington. I have refused to go back since the Mango ‘Mussolini’ has been I charge as it would feel that If did it would be supporting his policies.
 
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Vialli98 said:
In all honesty, I think US measures incredibly poorly in a lot of the metrics that truly matter - healthcare, education, gun culture, equal treatment etc, but it's wonderful in a million other ways, food, entertainment, general vibe, etc, hence why for a European like me, it's a perfect place to visit on holiday but it would take a lot of convincing to get me to live there.
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It kind of surprises me that people think America should be more like England than it is. As people have said there are huge differences between areas within the country let alone Europe. The people here don’t want to be like England and really don’t give a shit how they’re viewed. It’s still evolving, who knows where we’ll be in 50 years
 
idahoblues said:
It kind of surprises me that people think America should be more like England than it is. As people have said there are huge differences between areas within the country let alone Europe. The people here don’t want to be like England and really don’t give a shit how they’re viewed. It’s still evolving, who knows where we’ll be in 50 years
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We're a tolerable country to the extent a terrorist blows up kids and we light candles singing "Don't look back in anger" or 7yr old Emily Jones who was stabbed in the neck by a somalian woman and nothing, no uproar.
 
what it needed was a strong leader to stand up and stop all this from happening ? Barack Obama please come forward and take over your country
 
idahoblues said:
It kind of surprises me that people think America should be more like England than it is. As people have said there are huge differences between areas within the country let alone Europe. The people here don’t want to be like England and really don’t give a shit how they’re viewed. It’s still evolving, who knows where we’ll be in 50 years
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They may not give a shit about how they're viewed, but the progressive position on things like healthcare and education are still, on average, hugely popular policy ideas, despite your mainstream media treating them as if they're crazy, fringe ideas. You don't lose your identity, as an example, if you stop your citizens becoming bankrupt, selling everything they own, because a loved one got cancer. America can keep being America and still create a better society for it's citizens.
 
Vialli98 said:
They may not give a shit about how they're viewed, but the progressive position on things like healthcare and education are still, on average, hugely popular policy ideas, despite your mainstream media treating them as if they're crazy, fringe ideas. You don't lose your identity, as an example, if you stop your citizens becoming bankrupt, selling everything they own, because a loved one got cancer. America can keep being America and still create a better society for it's citizens.
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There's too much truth here.

Sometimes I feel the US has been wound up so tight they believe everything they're told. They're constantly bombarded with different messaging, the truth or important aspects of it, are lost in the maelstrom.
 
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