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George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder
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Bigga
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Lol, go on mate face it, AOC has pissed on your chips with her statements hasn't she? Kinda upset the applecart and all that, she wants them defunded, no ambiguity, just defunded., which is a bit of a squirm fest for those suggesting nobody really means it, as this prominent politician clearly does.
Then when you get City Mayors, also making similar pledges, it gets a little difficult trying to say it was all about discussing budgets.
"Discussing budgets"??
It just goes to show how you don't think for yourself. At this point in time there are 13 cities involved in defunding or about to defund the police.
So, I won't ask you again, what you THINK it means, as it's entirely pointless to get you to enunciate any clear critical thinking on the subject.
Well done.
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blueinsa
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I pick people, not sides, which I why I've been right about Trump from the beginning, and am usually right about who will and will not be effective at political leadership, regardless of the party.
I will readily admit to not knowing 99% of the names bandied about on this thread but i do recognise a nation that is a tinderbox at present politically but far worse, one in which everyone can walk around with an assault rifle if they so wish which married to an anger and hatred of anyone who they don't agree with, spells disaster.
Hyperbole? You would say absolutely, especially when discussing a democracy like yours but right now? No.
I can honestly see real bloodshed at the elections and that is a fucking disgrace.
FogBlueInSanFran
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I will readily admit to not knowing 99% of the names bandied about on this thread but i do recognise a nation that is a tinderbox at present politically but far worse, one in which everyone can walk around with an assault rifle if they so wish which married to an anger and hatred of anyone who they don't agree with, spells disaster.
Hyperbole? You would say absolutely, especially when discussing a democracy like yours but right now? No.
I can honestly see real bloodshed at the elections and that is a fucking disgrace.
Sadly -- very sadly -- I wouldn't say hyperbole any more, although I do think a lot of gunowners are cowards and hypocrites ("I don't trust that you won't harm me so I carry a gun, but I require that you trust me that I won't use it to harm you"; "I'm a law-abiding American but if guns were made illegal tomorrow, I would commit crimes to ensure that I could keep my gun", etc.)
I doubt Donald Trump could raise an army of citizenry willing to die for him to keep him in office if they wouldn't come to his inauguration or attend his rallies. But I could see him trying, and that is a fucking disgrace.
It's patently obvious at whose feet the current state of the nation can be laid upon.
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blueinsa
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Sadly -- very sadly -- I wouldn't say hyperbole any more, although I do think a lot of gunowners are cowards and hypocrites ("I don't trust that you won't harm me so I carry a gun, but I require that you trust me that I won't use it to harm you"; "I'm a law-abiding American but if guns were made illegal tomorrow, I would commit crimes to ensure that I could keep my gun", etc.)
I doubt Donald Trump could raise an army of citizenry willing to die for him if they wouldn't come to his inauguration or attend his rallies. But I could see him trying, and that is a fucking disgrace.
Win or lose, Trump is not leaving the Whitehouse unless its in cuffs, screaming and kicking.
He is about to go full on dictator imo.
They did that initially and he got away from them. They then chased around the car with guns drawn one officer was try to grab him when he opened the door and reached.Shite policing, could have just tackled him to the ground if you suspected he was going to his car to grab a weapon. Common sense policing doesn't exist in America just executions the fucking pigs.
Unless you are unreasonably suggesting the cops should have predicted what he was going to do when he got away from them trying to restrain him, then pre-empted his thoughts and then jump over the car's bonnet, (yes?) and wrestle him to the ground.
You know to guarantee, their survival and you know, his...
I mean, is that the expectation for cops now?
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I am off the same opinion, no need to shoot him seven times, no middle y ground totally agreed and said y it earlier.Is the answer...shoot him in the back seven times? I mean is that what you think should be the reaction every time a suspect reaches into his car, his pocket, his holdall? Or if he twitches, moves his hand, belches?
Do we take into account suspect disorientation, like when you just tasered him, or what if he has family in the car, do we still blaze away and hope we don’t hit them?
It‘s like there is no middle ground here, and there must be middle ground because the police aren‘t gunning down people every day are they, so maybe we should be analysing what goes right vs whats goes wrong, the situations, the cops involved, psychological profiles of the cops, recruitment, training etc. The alternative is bitching on a football forum asking what I would do or finding endless justifications for shooting someone in the back. Seven times.
But in THAT situation what would you have done?
Bigga
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I see we have headed off into the realm of it being about MY beliefs, with your last sentence basically confirming your lack of interest in the issue.
I think I’ll leave whatever context I was trying to provide to stand on its own.
I have no interest in litigating this incident on Bluemoon with my opinions vs yours.
Have yourself a safe day.
But, you DO have an opinion and justified the actions citing "non-compliance", so you must think that it was "a good shoot".
Don't ask us to look through the eyes of a cop, using your own experiences, if you don't want to answer a question that asks you what you would have done in your experience.
Have yourself a great day/ night.
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"Discussing budgets"??
It just goes to show how you don't think for yourself. At this point in time there are 13 cities involved in defunding or about to defund the police.
So, I won't ask you again, what you THINK it means, as it's entirely pointless to get you to enunciate any clear critical thinking on the subject.
Well done.
They did that initially and he got away from them. They then chased around the car with guns drawn one officer was try to grab him when he opened the door and reached.
Unless you are unreasonably suggesting the cops should have predicted what he was going to do when he got away from them trying to restrain him, then pre-empted his thoughts and then jump over the car's bonnet, (yes?) and wrestle him to the ground.
You know to guarantee, their survival and you know, his...
I mean, is that the expectation for cops now?
It’s funny but still... zero.. ZERO deaths.
you yanks wanna try that