George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

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Black Lives Matter Activist: Abolishing The Police '100%' Means Just That

Miski Noor, an organizer and activist with Black Visions Collective, speaks about the ongoing protests sparked in response to the police killing of George Floyd.

www.wbur.org

When activists say they want to abolish the police, they “100%” mean they want no more police, Noor says.

So? What does that matter what the odd extremist thinks? Does Tommy Robinson speak for you? No, of course he doesn’t, because he’s on the fringe, like Noor.

 

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she wants them defunded, no ambiguity, just defunded., which is a bit of a squirm fest for those suggesting nobody really means it, as this prominent politician clearly does.
Then when you get City Mayors, also making similar pledges, it gets a little difficult trying to say it was all about discussing budgets.

How do you still not understand that discussing budgets and defunding are the same thing? It’s reducing and reallocating the funds, not abolishing the police. The US already spends more per capita on policing than any other developed nation, is it working?

You keep banging that drum and highlighting what we know you don’t know.

 

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I suspect they do need better training because their policy is to "terminate the threat".

*Unless you’re white and armed.

 

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*Unless you’re white and armed.

And have just murdered a couple of people

 

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And have just murdered a couple of people

That’s a given obviously.

 

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How do you still not understand that discussing budgets and defunding are the same thing? It’s reducing and reallocating the funds, not abolishing the police. The US already spends more per capita on policing than any other developed nation, is it working?

You keep banging that drum and highlighting what we know you don’t know.

Policy started by Clinton and the Democrats as they chased votes to gain power. Racist policy of mass incarceration of blacks and Hispanics started by Clinton and the Democrats as they chased votes to gain power.

It's what politicians do. Republicans turn to spend huge amounts on law enforcement as they see it as a vote winner. If it suited the Democrats to campaign for it again, they would.

Fuck all is changing over there until such a time they ditch their rights to bear arms.

I don't condone or defend police killings like this either and those responsible should face justice.

 

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Policy started by Clinton and the Democrats as they chased votes to gain power. Racist policy of mass incarceration of blacks and Hispanics started by Clinton and the Democrats as they chased votes to gain power.

It's what politicians do. Republicans turn to spend huge amounts on law enforcement as they see it as a vote winner. If it suited the Democrats to campaign for it again, they would.

Fuck all is changing over there until such a time they ditch their rights to bear arms.

I don't condone or defend police killings like this either and those responsible should face justice.

I’m not remotely interested in which party started what. I take an interest in what’s happening over there. The police aren’t fit for purpose.

Look at this:



If you watch closely, the guy crossing the road, being told he’s appreciated, is the guy that later that night shot and killed 3 people in the street and then had 3 police cars drive past him as he went over to the police. If he was black, he’d be dead. It’s fucking mental, and you’re bothered about if it was Bill bastard Clinton that started over funding the police? Why does that even matter in 2020? Do you think everything is rosy in the garden and that changes aren’t needed?

 

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I’m not remotely interested in which party started what. I take an interest in what’s happening over there. The police aren’t fit for purpose.

Look at this:



If you watch closely, the guy crossing the road, being told he’s appreciated, is the guy that later that night shot and killed 3 people in the street and then had 3 police cars drive past him as he went over to the police. If he was black, he’d be dead. It’s fucking mental, and you’re bothered about if it was Bill bastard Clinton that started over funding the police? Why does that even matter in 2020? Do you think everything is rosy in the garden and that changes aren’t needed?

Not too sure what part of guns need to be taken out of their society or that police involved in killings and shootings like this should face justice leads you to asking me that question?

I also don't get the line of not being interested in who brought what policies in as it's key to this shit.

 

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Imagine if it was black “militia style” groups going around and doing this in dozen of cities ever night.

 

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I also don't get the line of not being interested in who brought what policies in as it's key to this shit.

It really really isn’t. Clinton was POTUS 1993-2001, it’s 19 years since he was in power. It’s of absolutely no relevance now. He also ruled over a country where weed was a class 1 narcotic (Cocaine was class 2) but weed’s now legal in most states.

Things change. Policies can change. Society can and should adapt for its betterment.