No Bigga. What it hints at is that the likelihood of a criminal charge are low.
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George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder
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They can't pursue a criminal charge. Only the State can.No idea - I did see her mum saying it wasn't about the money and they were pursuing criminal charges
Yes Bigga. It is unusual.Yeah, saw that too.
I find it unusual for a civil settlement to happen before a criminal case has been dealt with.
is the area Breona Taylor lived in one of those communities?In many areas of the US, especially the deep south, it's more than just looking the other way. There's whole communities down there who just fucking hate black people, and if their police force are kicking the crap out of them, that's just fine. They don't want them living around them. Seen it first hand in Georgia, it's nuts.
Damnit! @Bigga was having a good old time with his Faux logic until you went and brought your real life experience to the story and mess it all up :(ahh well ..... it does happen. I have worked in liability claims in my long and not so glittering career. Its not unusual for claims to be agreed on a without prejudice basis - sometimes they are agreed out of court on that basis because thats the cheaper option. I have always been of the opinion though that shit sticks and anyone who is aware of a settlement hears the quantum sum and then doesn't hear the "without prejudice" next line.
Why are you such a Party pooper? I mean, the obvious conclusion he was trying to reach was that only guilty people settle... I mean why else would you?
But you Sir just had to bring reality into this :( Why?
bluethrunthru
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Damnit! @Bigga was having a good old time with his Faux logic until you went and brought your real life experience to the story and mess it all up :(
Why are you such a Party pooper? I mean, the obvious conclusion he was trying to reach was that only guilty people settle... I mean why else would you?
But you Sir just had to bring reality into this :( Why?
Sometimes you have a cast iron defence and the barristers view is settle out of course coz the judge will always side with a little old lady against a big organisation. You have to just take it on the chin...........................and kick her walking stick away first chance you get lol
bluejon
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I've got no idea.is the area Breona Taylor lived in one of those communities?
EDIT: possibly not. the places i'm talking about aren't generally safe for black people to move to. there was a county south of atlanta where it was known they were proud as hell black people didn't live there, and made sure the reception was frosty enough that any that did left
Bigga
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Damnit! @Bigga was having a good old time with his Faux logic until you went and brought your real life experience to the story and mess it all up :(
Why are you such a Party pooper? I mean, the obvious conclusion he was trying to reach was that only guilty people settle... I mean why else would you?
But you Sir just had to bring reality into this :( Why?
Look clown, did someone get sacked? Why...?
Cos he was guilty or cos they needed to sack someone? If they needed to sack someone, he's got claim against the dept if he's 'innocent'. If he's guilty of some of the shots being the case of Taylor's death from his gun, then the liability is the police dept which he's under or why get rid of him...?
But, accordinging to you
What it hints at is that the likelihood of a criminal charge are low.
So why not take their chances in court?
Unlike the Apple example, you can trace bullets back to a person's gun directly.
"settlement without admission of guilt"
No admission of liability This settlement does not in any way constitute an admission of guilt, liability, or wrongdoing by TheCompanyPolice. Any such liability is expressly denied.
So why pay out? Wait for the case.
"settlement without prejudice"
The purpose of the without prejudice rule is to encourage parties to a dispute to try and reach a settlement by allowing them and their legal advisers to speak freely and make concessions knowing that their words cannot be used against them later in court if the negotiations fail to achieve settlement.
So, what's the point in a court case?
And this ain't aimed at you, so I don't care if you answer it; why would Breonna's family settle now they could have gotten twice as much...?
I can't fathom the reasoning. The girl is gone, waiting wouldn't have changed anything but brought greater pressure on the police as well as getting more/ further concessions for reform.
The family seemed badly advised or pressured into taking the settlement.
Sundown towns. I know of them.I've got no idea.
EDIT: possibly not. the places i'm talking about aren't generally safe for black people to move to. there was a county south of atlanta where it was known they were proud as hell black people didn't live there, and made sure the reception was frosty enough that any that did left
It' avoid the real discussion. Which is about what to do when suspects don't comply. There are only 2 options really, shoot the suspect or get shot by the suspect.I gave a reason why more funding would help in this instance.
Complaining about the 2A is just a waste of time. Have to deal with reality as it is.
This is why the actual crime at issue is irrelevant. This guy had an expired tag. At most he's car gets towed and he pays a 250 fine to get it back.
It is not about the crime or the offense you've already committed. Rather it's about the possibility and danger of things that could occur when you don't comply.
This video shows why cops cannot take failures to comply lightly.
Frankly, this added to the guy in LA who walked up on a cops car and fired multiple rounds into 2 cops sitting in their cars means we are all now at graver risks.
Cops everywhere now now there is an anti-police rhetoric being fomented by many and there are more vigilantes hoping to become Matyrs by killing cops.
This now puts cops on a higher alert, and less likely to give any leeway when it comes to failures to comply.
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