Yeah I did make a point of stating it’s perfectly legal for militias to form as self defence, it was a duty in fact in the early years of the country’s founding.Firstly, look into 'The New Jim Crow'.
And secondly, if the US constitution allows for 'all men being equal', 'the right to bear arms' and 'blah blah blah militias', then that applies to everyone having that particular country's rights.
If White men can march as militias, so can the Indigenous people, the Chinese, the Mexicans, women etc and on to its stupid conclusion.
Perhaps when all this has come to pass, the constitution can be re-written as it's supposed to be a living document, not selective in who can do or have what.
Yeah I did make a point of stating it’s perfectly legal for militias to form as self defence, it was a duty in fact in the early years of the country’s founding.
My point is merely I don’t like seeing it, whether it’s white, black, Mexican or otherwise.
My view is that response should be peaceful as the government (police, army etc.) will win if it comes to a firefight and there will be many needless causalities.
I love that phrase but I agree you shouldn’t do it in certain circumstances.And I'm arguing that 'turning the other cheek' is not conducive in modern society. Why should any demographic be afraid of another?
I love that phrase but I agree you shouldn’t do it in certain circumstances.
I certainly wouldn’t if I awoke to a burglary taking place in my house.
I’m not for a minute saying black people should put up and shut up with police brutality and murder in the US, I think they should take strong action, just not violent.
The peaceful movement in the 60s that eventually led to change wasn’t just “turning the other cheek”, it was in some regard but it was proactive and slightly radical but ultimately peaceful ...and that’s what won over apathetic whites at the time and forced the government to make changes.
You may say that’s pointless with Trump but changes can be made at State level and Biden might be in by Xmas.
Now you're being dumb.
I qualified what I said about the background of what he says without it meaning his DIRECTLY saying it!
It's in all his 'if you don't comply' messaging!
Like I said, READ HIS TEXT!
Well I’m not saying they’re not allowed to do that nor am I saying the police should engage the militia, in fact it’d be a woeful idea to do so, a negotiation should take place.My point is that there is often a parade of White male men that march openly on the streets from time to time with the display that the Gov will not take their guns. Of late, I recall an event of such in the face of BLM protests.
In the main, if at all, no police stop these activities as it is deemed a 'right'. The most I've seen is that some, in the media, look at these people as idiots.
The narrative changes when Black people decide if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for us, but the same type of march is looked upon with a cloud of 'threat'. I, simply, wonder why this happens.
I think it was late 60s/ early 70s when the Black Panthers decided to do such a thing and certain weapons were banned as a reaction to the very same marches that White people/ KKK held at the time.
That mental fear has never disappeared and I think the mentality is, from certain sections of society, that the Black demographic will finally 'rise up' against what is known as 'unfair treatment' over centuries.
I think those that expose the US constitution should make up their minds on whether it serves all or scrap it and start again.
Police officers watch videos like this in training.
Policing peaceful protestors is a different task than a traffic stop with non-compliance.
I am casting no premature judgement on the Kenosha shooting.
Would some of you feel differently if you discovered he was reaching inside his car for a gun? I don’t know if was or wasn’t. I don’t know if there was a gun in the car or not. I do know that if the officers had waited until they saw a gun, they could be dead now.
As I have said, when guns are ubiquitous, EVERY cop in EVERY situation has to assume the use of deadly force AGAINST HIM is a possibility.
There is admitted non-compliance and we ALL know enough to know that non-compliance and actions in complete contradiction of the compliance orders elevate the fear and danger of the situation.
Non-compliance coupled with bending down into a car, with the door partially open, backs to the officers do they have zero visibility of what the non-compliant person is doing is, in my opinion, the height of stupidity and daring the officers to use they already drawn weapons.
Ask yourself a question:
If you were confronted by two armed officers, guns drawn, barking orders at you, would YOU comply?
If not, why not?
Would you walk around a car away from them, where they can’t see your hands?
Would you then open your drivers side car door (the location where most people with weapons keep that weapon, within reach while driving, which is illegal unless legally permitted for concealed carry), with your back to officers, where they have zero vision of your hands?
You don’t even live in the US, but I would imagine most everyone in the UK would comply immediately, would not ignore lawful compliance orders from armed officers, and would definitely not ignore them to the point of just walking around the car to get to the drivers side door to reach in.
Like I said, I’ll withhold judgment until I know more, but I simply ask what would YOU have done? What do you think the “normal” person would have done? Why do YOU think the person was so completely non-compliant? Does non-compliance in the face of armed officers suggest fear or did he act quite nonchalantly? We’re there other people in the immediate vicinity, any one of whom could have been armed, escalate the situation?
Again, no judgement, just asking the questions that reasonable people ask about these incidents.
Police officers watch videos like this in training.
Policing peaceful protestors is a different task than a traffic stop with non-compliance.
I am casting no premature judgement on the Kenosha shooting.
Would some of you feel differently if you discovered he was reaching inside his car for a gun? I don’t know if was or wasn’t. I don’t know if there was a gun in the car or not. I do know that if the officers had waited until they saw a gun, they could be dead now.
As I have said, when guns are ubiquitous, EVERY cop in EVERY situation has to assume the use of deadly force AGAINST HIM is a possibility.
There is admitted non-compliance and we ALL know enough to know that non-compliance and actions in complete contradiction of the compliance orders elevate the fear and danger of the situation.
Non-compliance coupled with bending down into a car, with the door partially open, backs to the officers do they have zero visibility of what the non-compliant person is doing is, in my opinion, the height of stupidity and daring the officers to use they already drawn weapons.
Ask yourself a question:
If you were confronted by two armed officers, guns drawn, barking orders at you, would YOU comply?
If not, why not?
Would you walk around a car away from them, where they can’t see your hands?
Would you then open your drivers side car door (the location where most people with weapons keep that weapon, within reach while driving, which is illegal unless legally permitted for concealed carry), with your back to officers, where they have zero vision of your hands?
You don’t even live in the US, but I would imagine most everyone in the UK would comply immediately, would not ignore lawful compliance orders from armed officers, and would definitely not ignore them to the point of just walking around the car to get to the drivers side door to reach in.
Like I said, I’ll withhold judgment until I know more, but I simply ask what would YOU have done? What do you think the “normal” person would have done? Why do YOU think the person was so completely non-compliant? Does non-compliance in the face of armed officers suggest fear or did he act quite nonchalantly? We’re there other people in the immediate vicinity, any one of whom could have been armed, escalate the situation?
Again, no judgement, just asking the questions that reasonable people ask about these incidents.