George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

[Silva_Spell]

I'll wait and see evidence of where the 'knife' was, within the confines of the car before I 'understand' the shooting.

And if the report becomes available, I guarantee "resisting arrest" will be cited as part of the reason for shooting.

I would be deeply surprised if it isn't.

The knife doesn't even have to exist for it to be a justified shooting

Resisting arrest will be part of the report but it'll only be part of the shooting in the same way that entering Alton Towers is part of going on The Nemesis (or whatever famous ride they have nowadays)

 

[Bigga]

You're being dishonest right now

Whatever you like to tell yourself.

Your posts are constantly full of judgement without context.

 

[Bigga]

Maybe try a US forum. That's where this shit happened after all.

LOL!!

Shit, I didn't know bothering about Humanity and equality was an issue.

Fooking internet, eh...?

 

[Silva_Spell]

Whatever you like to tell yourself.

Your posts are constantly full of judgement without context.

You just couldn't admit that my "judgements" had serious caveats right from the start. And because of that we had to go down the Bigga Brick Road until you found a way out

 

[Dax777]

I take it we are still at the ‘shooting unarmed black people is totally fine but trying to disarm and/or protect yourself against an armed white guy who has just shot someone is very bad’, stage.

Seems to be a full time job arguing black is white (excuse the pun). Not to mention the way you have to keep flipping your logic to try and justify it all. It’s got to fuck with your head. Must be exhausting.

There was no protecting yourself even though these facts no matter how many videos show it

So, if a person ended up fighting back, would that be considered "resisting" or not?

It would be. But here is the kicker. That cop would go to jail if video came out of him drop kicking a guy who had surrendered. And then had to shoot him coz the guy struggled after he was assaulted.

That said, this is an outlier. Most people resisting or failing to comply are doing so under some false belief that they have a right to resist arrest.

Some because they think they are not guilty and others coz they've been convinced by some idiots that doing this is okay.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

LOL!!

Shit, I didn't know bothering about Humanity and equality was an issue.

Fooking internet, eh...?

I just don't see why we are so keen to import US issues into our own culture - I'm sure we have our own to deal with. I think most people are all for humanity and equality tbh and you are seeking a fight where it largely doesn't exist.

 

[Dax777]

It's already been noted Rittenhouse had shot someone in the head prior to the first video we had seen.

That would make that "recent events" in comparison to the order the footage came.

Does that explain things for you...?

I see. That's not recent events. That's what I explained to you about 6 pages ago. The first shooting is not new event. There is video of that too.

If you think that's recent events. I had better update you coz you are a little behind.

1. There is tape of the first shooting.

2. Like the second shooting, the first person he shot also was pursuing him. And threw a bag of rubbish at him as RH ran ( just like in the 2nd shootings) This is caught on video.

3. We have a fuller picture now as to what happened prior to the video of Roseburg chasing Rittenhouse.

4. There was a reporter interviewing Rittenhouse before the first shooting. If you watch the first shooting video, he is the guy who took of his shirt to try to help the guy who had been shot.

4. That reporter, has a video on YouTube describng the incident. Btw he is also on the DA witness list.

5. According to him, he was interviewing Rittenhouse when Roseburg and a few others approached Rosenberg tried to grab Rittenhouse gun, Rittenhouse "did a juke move" to Avoid his gun being grabbed turned and started running. Rosenberg gave chase. And the reporter followed.

5. The rest we've seen on video. But according to the reporter he followed RH and RB as RB chased down RH, a gun blast went off and the reporter said he ducked. That original gin blast was not from Rittenhouse who was still running away at the time.

6. At that point you can see Rittenhouse turn and fire 4 shots then run behind the car as Rosenberg slumps.

7. While they were too far to be seen on the video, other eyewitnesses claimed Rosenberg grabbed at the riffle when he caught up to Rittenhouse in the parking lot and Rittenhouse turned to face him before Rittenhouse shot him.

Anyway, those are the most current developments.

There is so much video on the events of that night in Kenosha, that one would really have to be trying hard to not find all the information they need.

Also, perhaps I should note, Rittenhouse didn't carry a weapon over state lines. The gun belonged to a Kenoshan.

Also, I didn't know this but it turns out Rittenhouse actually works in Kenosha and normally hangs out there. Even though he lives 20 minutes away in Illinois, Kenosha is the big city around him.

Anyway, I'll provide you updates as they come in.

 

[BobKowalski]

Whoa, we’ve gone from ‘Kyle’ to ‘Rittenhouse’. Not looking good for his fan boys Facebook page.

 

[Silva_Spell]

I'm sure this is what George Floyd would have wanted, the Tehranisaion of California

 

[inbetween]

I'm sure this is what George Floyd would have wanted, the Tehranisaion of California

People tend to question their nationality amongst other things when they don't get their own way. It's the frustration that is building up in people and it's spread across all spectrums where eventually no-one is innocent.

On the other side people are saying "I don't recognise my country anymore", "this is a white country", it's an identity and cultural crisis. You potentially have two types of people in America, people who remember the days when black people sat on different sections of the bus, and then people who don't just find that disgusting but feel violent protest is required to argue against anyone who agrees with it.

This is why much of the western world is on the brink of civil war, the change has been so quick and people have struggled to adapt. I agree with the changes, it is disgraceful to even consider to have black people sat in different sections on a bus but there will be older generations who honestly disagree. Then there are sections in society who aren't bothered and will argue against because it's how they were brought up and they feel the 80's or 90's was how society should be because that's how it was for them.

Here in the UK, the massive increase in migration over the last 20 years has seen some feel like we are being invaded. It has challenged peoples views, people who for 30-40 years of their lives barely saw a black person, or a Muslim. Now those people are seeing many on their streets and they feel it's an assault on their identity and their country.

I disagree with any racist view but there is a reason why all of this is happening and it's because traditional human behaviour is to oppose change and view 'unknown' people with suspect. There's no excuse for it but it's ingrained deeply in human nature and it isn't something you can just argue against or type against on Twitter.