George Floyd murder / Derek Chauvin guilty of murder

I'll play your game.

Tell me if you saw the police duo work as a team, rather than one person tase the dude from one end whilst the other did nothing?

If I'm forced to work with a colleague I'd make sure that if it came to 'non-compliance' if I'm tazing the attempted detainee, I'm making sure my partner is spraying mace to the guy on the other side, after all, he was that fucking close. It would be trying daze and confuse the guy enough to force him out of the vehicle. You know the 'dazed and confused'/ 'shock and awe' tactic you guys know about!

Have a fucking game plan even if you have to tase the guy from the other angle as well!

Poorly fucking handled!

Nobody seems to take charge in these situations and it all seems 'on-the-fly- as your lot say. Whilst the two are talking about the situation in the beginning, why not build a contingency plan for if there's no compliance...?

Basic fucking common sense!

They ain’t worth it, mate.

No matter the circumstances, or the facts they are not listening because they don’t want to listen. Their game is just to stink out this thread until everyone leaves or puts them on ignore.
 
Black Americans are killed at a much higher rate than White Americans

"Although half of the people shot and killed by police are White, Black Americans are shot at a disproportionate rate. They account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of White Americans. Hispanic Americans are also killed by police at a disproportionate rate."


Is that not a fact?
Yes it is.

But I sense and hope that you recognize that that's a patently inadequate use of statistics. It's often a disingenuous way those who want to forment discord present information.

Let me use an example to explain:

So 80% of players currently in the NBA are black. Again like you very well know, black people are only 13% of the population of the U.S.

Now, suppose someone wanted to determine if blacks are being discriminated against by refs during NBA games and then they throw out the stat that 81% of all fouls in the NBA are called against someone black even though blacks represent only 13% of the American population This would clearly be an excessive sign of discrimination against Blacks who are only 13% of the population, yet getting called for fouls 81% of the time...


In this example it's obvious to anyone what the error is; the populations being sampled is different From the base population being used for determining discrimination. Blacks being 13% of the US population is irrelevant if 80% of the players who could be called for a foul are black.

Those who often peddle the stat you just used are, knowingly or not, exhibiting the same error as the above. I.e. comparing the results of different populations. A) population of blacks in NBA vs B) population of blacks in the U.S

In your example, The population you are looking for are black interactions with cops vs White interactions with cops.

As a % of interactions with cops, more with whites get shot than blacks. 4 of every 100000 for whites vs 3 of every 100000 interactions for blacks. Again the relevant population here is the population that interacts with the police not the population percentages of the different groups in the country at large .


As @RabidCity has pointed out, about 50% of all murders victims ( and their perpetrators) in America are black yearly. Now would you conclude that there is discrimination against black people if 50% of those arrested for killing others were black? Would you say, well black people self discriminatory as they are only 13% of the population but yet 50% if those killed by homicides?

No one would do that, yet that's what those stats are purposely presenting.

Again, I implore you, examine the facts, review the peer reviewed studies on the topic, and draw your own conclusions.

The facts simply has never bore out the claims often being peddled.
 
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It's kinda like saying that based on last season Eoin Doyle is a better goalscorer than Aguero. It doesn't control for the fact Doyle plays in League 2.
Per police interaction there's no statistical difference in terms of shootings (white americans are slightly more likely to be shot but it's extremely marginal)
Similar story when you break down the cops by racial demographic and their likelihood to shoot
Fuck! You've done it again :( I write 12 paragraphs explaining something, only to find youve done it in 10 words.
 
What he continually fails to understand is that police (subconsciously, it seems) are more likely to talk down a White perp than a Black/ Brown perp for the same situation.

There's plenty of vids out there giving a White civilian longer chances to 'make the right decision' before action is taken.
Again, you are grossly uneducated on this topic. But that has obviously never deterred you.

The fact simply do not bare this out. Sorry!
 
The phrase "disproportionate rate" is often ignored and replaced with, 'but the White population is larger'!

Wholly ironic in response!
No Bigga. That's not the response. That's what people who don't know much about the issue say.
 
I'll play your game.

Tell me if you saw the police duo work as a team, rather than one person tase the dude from one end whilst the other did nothing?

If I'm forced to work with a colleague I'd make sure that if it came to 'non-compliance' if I'm tazing the attempted detainee, I'm making sure my partner is spraying mace to the guy on the other side, after all, he was that fucking close. It would be trying daze and confuse the guy enough to force him out of the vehicle. You know the 'dazed and confused'/ 'shock and awe' tactic you guys know about!

Have a fucking game plan even if you have to tase the guy from the other angle as well!

Poorly fucking handled!

Nobody seems to take charge in these situations and it all seems 'on-the-fly- as your lot say. Whilst the two are talking about the situation in the beginning, why not build a contingency plan for if there's no compliance...?

Basic fucking common sense!

spraying mace in the direction of your partner doesn't sound like the smartest thing to do
 
Clown One decided to use a bigger demographic argument to make a point only to tell himself he doesn't know much about the subject later in the thread.

Clown Two points out that spraying mace at the target (let's use the above incident he chose) puts his partner in danger, you know, the one that tasered a guy at distance from the other side of the car.

Laurel and Hardy are alive and well...
 

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