Gianluigi Donnarumma | Done deal according to Romano

[SWP's back]

what are the chances that Pep Lijnders is a deep cover Liverpool agent and has somehow conviced Pep ?

None because he’s one of the top 3 keepers in the world.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Trafford aint great with his feet either

He's several levels above Donnarumma.

 

[skillman]

I just don’t see what a lot of you see with this lad:

Serie A (215 games):
15/16: 3 errors (1 goal)
16/17: 6 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
17/18: 8 errors (4 goals)
18/19: 3 errors (2 goals)
19/20: 7 errors (3 goals)
20/21: 2 errors (1 goal)

Ligue 1 (104 games):
21/22: 2 errors
22/23: 5 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
23/24: 5 errors (1 goal, 1 penalty)

I'm not taking the piss here - it's a genuine interest/question. Is there something similar for Ederson?

 

[Matt Diablo]

Teams absolutely will press us with Donnarumma in goal and he is not capable of pinging a pass the length of the pitch to put it on a platter for Haaland.

If we plan on going more direct but offloading Ederson then we are going to have to put an incredible amount of work into winning second balls.

Well yes ffs. That is the point! Winning the 2nd/ loose ball, winning headers, interceptions, nailing the opp all hip height 50/50s etc etc. Then maybe City be at the top again. Same weak shit as last season we aint winning nothing

 

[TonyM]

The more I think of this potential transfer the more it doesn’t make sense. Enrique said yesterday that he wants a keeper more suited to his style of play. Donnarumma would be a disaster for us imo.

At least it gives us more to complain about.

 

[skillman]

Teams absolutely will press us with Donnarumma in goal and he is not capable of pinging a pass the length of the pitch to put it on a platter for Haaland.

If we plan on going more direct but offloading Ederson then we are going to have to put an incredible amount of work into winning second balls.

I remember one of the books on Pep saying that he knew within 2/3 weeks of the 2016/17 season that second balls were the most important parts of English football.

 

[Matt Diablo]

Haha yeah don't want him! Hahahaahahaha

 

[BringBackSwales]

I'm not taking the piss here - it's a genuine interest/question. Is there something similar for Ederson?

I also wonder if there’s stats for how many pens he’s saved, how many shots he’s saved that other keepers wouldn’t? Just showing “errors” in isolation doesn’t say a lot

 

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

I’m exactly the same. People are just watching the saving highlight reels and thinking he would be brilliant.

We would really miss the distribution to start attacks and crucially we would hugely miss the ability of the goalkeeper to play as a sweeper behind a high line and clear up. Ederson had saved so many goals doing that. Whilst not flash it is extremely vital to how pep wants to play.

The fact enrique wants rid is a major major red flag.

Just this quote from an article I read sums it all up “
Donnarumma has certainly improved with the ball at his feet compared to his early days at Milan and for Italy, but it remains an undoubted weakness in his game.

An excellent shot-stopper, he is nonetheless not the goalkeeper you want to act as an additional sweeper.”

A big name player on huge wages. Dare I say it. Reminds me of Manchester United type signing?

From the times I’ve watched him play, he looks good enough with his feet - only Ederson is at his level with his feet but I think he’s checked out almost …..doesn’t look the same keeper recently.

This guy is definitely one of the top keepers in the world right now - Trafford could become one but needs games to continue learning his trade.

Interesting development if we sign this one and Ederson + Ortega go

 

[David Silva]

Not sure Donnarumma is anywhere near Oblak, Garcia, Alison, Cortois or Chevelier.

He never wins the ball from crosses, he is panicky and unsure with his feet and the distribution he does get away is all over the place. Decent enough shot stopper, but Paris are replacing him with a better keeper.

As stupid as this sounds I actually think he could be a temporary fix, whilst we see how Traff develops as well as our younger defenders. A sticking plaster to help via his shot stopping whilst our defence gets back to its old self. Will be interesting to see how long his contract is.

 

[hoppy]

Best in the world or the Italian Gary Bailey?

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Well yes ffs. That is the point! Winning the 2nd/ loose ball, winning headers, interceptions, nailing the opp all hip height 50/50s etc etc. Then maybe City be at the top again. Same weak shit as last season we aint winning nothing

Our current squad isn't ideal for playing that way though. If we wanted to play that way then we should have planned better.

 

[bluemoon32]

He's several levels above Donnarumma.

Maybe so but many many levels below Ederson

 

[bluemanchester]

Chelsea wiped the floor with Enriques PSG, deservedly as well in the World club final. Maybe Pep is thinking of different ways to play as his most inportant job this season is to stop the one shot one goal happening against us. Do that and our whole play will regain the confidence of past years.
I hope;-)

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Maybe so but many many levels below Ederson

Isn't everyone? The only one who was close was Neuer and he's about 63.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

I’m exactly the same. People are just watching the saving highlight reels and thinking he would be brilliant.

We would really miss the distribution to start attacks and crucially we would hugely miss the ability of the goalkeeper to play as a sweeper behind a high line and clear up. Ederson had saved so many goals doing that. Whilst not flash it is extremely vital to how pep wants to play.

The fact enrique wants rid is a major major red flag.

Just this quote from an article I read sums it all up “
Donnarumma has certainly improved with the ball at his feet compared to his early days at Milan and for Italy, but it remains an undoubted weakness in his game.

An excellent shot-stopper, he is nonetheless not the goalkeeper you want to act as an additional sweeper.”

A big name player on huge wages. Dare I say it. Reminds me of Manchester United type signing?

His distribution is nowhere near Ederson (nobody is) but I have no concerns about him coming for high balls or sweeping. Never stood out to me as an issue when watching him play.

 

[bluemoon32]

Isn't everyone? The only one who was close was Neuer and he's about 63.

Fuck it, get him in ha

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

I just don’t see what a lot of you see with this lad:

Serie A (215 games):
15/16: 3 errors (1 goal)
16/17: 6 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
17/18: 8 errors (4 goals)
18/19: 3 errors (2 goals)
19/20: 7 errors (3 goals)
20/21: 2 errors (1 goal)

Ligue 1 (104 games):
21/22: 2 errors
22/23: 5 errors (3 goals, 1 penalty)
23/24: 5 errors (1 goal, 1 penalty)

Is a mistake once every 10 or so games really that concerning? Nobody is perfect, what's some similar stats for other top keepers?

 

[willipp]

I also wonder if there’s stats for how many pens he’s saved, how many shots he’s saved that other keepers wouldn’t? Just showing “errors” in isolation doesn’t say a lot

That's the offset isn't it. We probably get the best shot stopper in the world but at the same time we get a keeper bang average with his feet.

 

[Matt Diablo]

Must admit it does look a bit odd that we were desperate to ditch Hart at the beginning of Peps tenure because he was poor in possession.
Now apparently towards the end we are rumoured to be replacing Ederson with Donnarumma.
Great keeper though he is, from what I've seen he is no better than Hart with his feet.

Fuk his feet he is a GK. Its his arms, hands,;head, body etc etc that matter most for most important position on pitch