Gelsons Dad
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LEE BRADBURY said:
didn't this squad beat the scum twice last year.
When will people realise that it isn't a whole squad of shit players that's the problem. It's a fucking wank manager!!
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Give Hughes the chance to sort this **** out.
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didn't this squad beat the scum twice last year.
When will people realise that it isn't a whole squad of shit players that's the problem. It's a fucking wank manager!!
Keith Moon
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Why should we buy the best players in the world when we have a second class manager?
citymad
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Exactly, we have the money why would we want to continue with Hughes ?. The mind boggles !!! He needs to go but not sure at what point, its a delicate stage right now and we need to make use of the transfer window. Sacking him now leaves about 20 days for a new manager to buy players.Keith Moon said:Why should we buy the best players in the world when we have a second class manager?
Another one who thinks Hughes took over on August 31st!! Wasn't this evident when Hughes took them to Germany for bootcamp? Pre-season friendlies? 1.5 months of competitive games? He was quoted today as saying that he knew from day 1 about our problems...so why the fuck has he not done anything to fix them?ManCityX said:..these 'certain players' weren't brought to the club by Hughes either. ...we need to look at some of the players we have and realise that they're just not good enough. Hughes knows this and to be honest I think he's surprised by some of the players who aren't at the level he expected when he took the job.
Petrov should never have been rushed back like he was & he certainly shouldn't have been released for International duty. Johnson was doing ok last year...has Hughes turned him to drink? If Elano is as big a problem as everyone makes out then why wasn't he sold in the summer? There would have been quite a few takers. It is clear to see, even for a blindman, that he isn't a Hughes type player (he tries to play football & keep possession).Today we were missing SWP (taken off at 0-0), Robinho, Ireland and you could go a step further and say we were missing Petrov and Johnson as well. Excluding Elano (who has been average for a year now) these are our best creative players and we missed them all today. We don't have the players to replace them and because of that we end up with results like todays.
So you agree Hughes doesn't have the ability to manage players? Unfortunately for Hughes, we are now in a position to buy the best. The best are usually very strong minded & individualistic. If you can't handle this type of personality then you are fucked. Hughes wants to produce robots...he's a square peg in a round hole & it will only get worse (remember Cook talking about Hughes & his comfort zones?).I hate to name names and pick on individuals but **** it; Ball (bye bye), Gelson *shudders*, Vassell (you're a good guy, you're just no where near good enough), Caicedo etc and players who have been letting us down such as Dunne and Richards really need to buck their ideas up. We need a centre half and we need a left back, we've just solved the left back problem and now Hughes will probably look to the former problem and then decide who he's going to drop, Dunne or Richards. It's pretty much a toss of a coin as far as I'm concerned at the moment.
The only way Hughes can fix this is to "dumb down" expectations of the owners. Unfortunately, the owners have bigger expectations than to be knocked out of all domestic competitions at the first hurdle & battle for mid table mediocrity. This was his side that he kept/added to for an assault on Europe & the top 4 - he is clueless & out of his depth. He did fuck all before he joined us & done fuck all since (apart from turning us into an embarrassment which, for City, takes some doing).Give Mark Hughes the chance to fix this. Sure he's made some odd decisions at times but I believe it's more to do with the lack of quality than anything else which sees us in the position we are now. If he hasn't bought a centre back, a striker and a defensive midfielder then it might be worth asking questions of him but for the moment I think he knows perfectly well what this side needs.
mancity x , im very much of same opinion im prepared to stick with MH , alot of that team today were a combination of not good enough / not putting a shift in / fearing thier future at city. personally elano can do one! his performance today was a disgrace. Richards , someone , anyone get a fu@kin grip of him and av a word and if he cant re focus on his potential then sell him and we will see who's prepared to buy him , nobody in the top 4 thats for sure. Vass you've done a job for us but sorry the end is niegh. Ball same as Vass. Gelson never in a millon years will he be a top player in the prem. Hart too many mistakes but could become a top keeper with right guidence. Didi was my fav player years ago and there lies the thing years ago!!! Jo iv seen nothing that suggests he's going to come good . Caicedio again not good enough. MH deserves a minimum of a season and a half of using HIS signings to see how good he is.
citymad said:Exactly, we have the money why would we want to continue with Hughes ?. The mind boggles !!! He needs to go but not sure at what point, its a delicate stage right now and we need to make use of the transfer window. Sacking him now leaves about 20 days for a new manager to buy players.Keith Moon said:Why should we buy the best players in the world when we have a second class manager?
This is a fair point. I also suspect that the current situation [IDF tanks in Gaza] will mean that the Sheikh will not want to be seen to be focusing on anything other than the suffering of his brothers and sisters.
HelloCity
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Another one who thinks Hughes took over on August 31st!! Wasn't this evident when Hughes took them to Germany for bootcamp? Pre-season friendlies? 1.5 months of competitive games? He was quoted today as saying that he knew from day 1 about our problems...so why the fuck has he not done anything to fix them?"
Because we were close to going into administration and had no money to solve the problems until the last moments of the window. Also a pre season isn't enough to tell you who and who isn't good enough.
Another one who thinks Hughes took over on August 31st!! Wasn't this evident when Hughes took them to Germany for bootcamp? Pre-season friendlies? 1.5 months of competitive games? He was quoted today as saying that he knew from day 1 about our problems...so why the fuck has he not done anything to fix them?"
Because we were close to going into administration and had no money to solve the problems until the last moments of the window. Also a pre season isn't enough to tell you who and who isn't good enough.
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No, sorry I wouldn't even consider giving him ANOTHER chance, the sooner he's gone the better.
He has given me no indication whatsoever that he is up to the job, each time we play he gives me yet more questions, and no answers.
He is completely out of his depth.
He has given me no indication whatsoever that he is up to the job, each time we play he gives me yet more questions, and no answers.
He is completely out of his depth.
*singingtheblues* said:No, sorry I wouldn't even consider giving him ANOTHER chance, the sooner he's gone the better.
He has given me no indication whatsoever that he is up to the job, each time we play he gives me yet more questions, and no answers.
He is completely out of his depth.
Oh yes.
Where did the money come from for Jo, Kompany, SWP......? We were one of the highest spenders pre-season. We had players that had just finished in the top 10 - they were obviously good enough. A number of them were obviously not Hughes type players - why weren't they sold to get the robots in? You're not seriously suggesting that if Elano was placed on the transfer list in August then there wouldn't have been any takers?ManCityX said:"
Another one who thinks Hughes took over on August 31st!! Wasn't this evident when Hughes took them to Germany for bootcamp? Pre-season friendlies? 1.5 months of competitive games? He was quoted today as saying that he knew from day 1 about our problems...so why the fuck has he not done anything to fix them?"
Because we were close to going into administration and had no money to solve the problems until the last moments of the window. Also a pre season isn't enough to tell you who and who isn't good enough.
I can understand people taking a position on Hughes but please don't start changing history to support your nonsense.
HelloCity
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Jo wasn't bought by Hughes and the fee is broken up over a long period of time. Kompany and SWP signed when the takeover was 'on'. Kompany has hinted as such with comments such as 'they told me something big was about to happen'.
Every passing game makes me question the ability of Hughes even more, no manager is given the right to fail and then get rewarded by having an open chequebook to sign whoever they like. To compound this after the Bridge signing Hughes stated we would follow this up with proven Premiership players, this stinks of accepting mediocrity. Hughes has not met any reasonable targets that would of been expected of him and sadly he is clearly out of his depth. We are also being painted a picture that Hughes has flown to the rescue as he inherited a squad in crisis with no real talent which to me is rubbish.
I sometimes browse a West Ham forum and they have the general opinion he is a fairly poor manager.
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I sometimes browse a West Ham forum and they have the general opinion he is a fairly poor manager.
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12 Months ago :-
Blackburn got knocked out of UEFA cup by the mighty Larissa FC , Then :-
5 Jan 2008, 15:00 Blackburn Rovers 1 - 4 Coventry City FA Cup 3rd Round.
Blackburn got knocked out of UEFA cup by the mighty Larissa FC , Then :-
5 Jan 2008, 15:00 Blackburn Rovers 1 - 4 Coventry City FA Cup 3rd Round.
Liam Murray
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Mark Hughes is a Championship level manager (after today thats bloody debatable) and should never have been anywhere near City
Sadly at our expense he has been found out and until he is relieved of his duties we will go nowhere except down
Sadly at our expense he has been found out and until he is relieved of his duties we will go nowhere except down
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a joke manager ,making us a joke club........simple
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royston swizz said:12 Months ago :-
Blackburn got knocked out of UEFA cup by the mighty Larissa FC , Then :-
5 Jan 2008, 15:00 Blackburn Rovers 1 - 4 Coventry City FA Cup 3rd Round.
may 2008 - blackburn finish 7th in the league.
RAGManCityX said:Certain players need to take a long hard look at themselves after today, these 'certain players' weren't brought to the club by Hughes either. After December with Sven we were getting knocked out of the FA Cup by the likes of Sheffield United and putting up some performances which almost rivaled the Pearce era in terms of bordom factor. If you took away mid August-mid december 2007 from last season we were ranked 17th from then on. That great start from last year has given many of us false expectations and we need to look at some of the players we have and realise that they're just not good enough. Hughes knows this and to be honest I think he's surprised by some of the players who aren't at the level he expected when he took the job.
Today we were missing SWP (taken off at 0-0), Robinho, Ireland and you could go a step further and say we were missing Petrov and Johnson as well. Excluding Elano (who has been average for a year now) these are our best creative players and we missed them all today. We don't have the players to replace them and because of that we end up with results like todays.
I hate to name names and pick on individuals but **** it; Ball (bye bye), Gelson *shudders*, Vassell (you're a good guy, you're just no where near good enough), Caicedo etc and players who have been letting us down such as Dunne and Richards really need to buck their ideas up. We need a centre half and we need a left back, we've just solved the left back problem and now Hughes will probably look to the former problem and then decide who he's going to drop, Dunne or Richards. It's pretty much a toss of a coin as far as I'm concerned at the moment.
Give Mark Hughes the chance to fix this. Sure he's made some odd decisions at times but I believe it's more to do with the lack of quality than anything else which sees us in the position we are now. If he hasn't bought a centre back, a striker and a defensive midfielder then it might be worth asking questions of him but for the moment I think he knows perfectly well what this side needs.
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CBlue said:Where did the money come from for Jo, Kompany, SWP......? We were one of the highest spenders pre-season. We had players that had just finished in the top 10 - they were obviously good enough. A number of them were obviously not Hughes type players - why weren't they sold to get the robots in? You're not seriously suggesting that if Elano was placed on the transfer list in August then there wouldn't have been any takers?ManCityX said:"
Another one who thinks Hughes took over on August 31st!! Wasn't this evident when Hughes took them to Germany for bootcamp? Pre-season friendlies? 1.5 months of competitive games? He was quoted today as saying that he knew from day 1 about our problems...so why the fuck has he not done anything to fix them?"
Because we were close to going into administration and had no money to solve the problems until the last moments of the window. Also a pre season isn't enough to tell you who and who isn't good enough.
I can understand people taking a position on Hughes but please don't start changing history to support your nonsense.
Were they, though?
Most of last season's points came before Christmas. In Hughes's first 19 games he got 18 points. In Sven's last 19 games he got 19 points. Seems to me like the poor form has been for 2008, not just for Hughes.
Even Pearce managed 19 points from his last 19 with his squad.
I'm sorry but I must be a bit thick....are you saying that the team that finished 9th weren't good enough to finish in the top 10? Or, are you saying that if we didn't have a dip in form when the end of year "review" was announced, then last years squad was capable of finishing higher than 9th but still weren't good enough to finish in the top 10?BlueMooney said:We had players that had just finished in the top 10 - they were obviously good enough.
Were they, though?
Most of last season's points came before Christmas. In Hughes's first 19 games he got 18 points. In Sven's last 19 games he got 19 points. Seems to me like the poor form has been for 2008, not just for Hughes.
Even Pearce managed 19 points from his last 19 with his squad.
So these weren't Hughes' signings (as well as Zab & TBH) ? Or, were they his signings which would make your point fucking stupid in that Hughes did have money to spend? Kompany was signed on August 22nd, SWP on August 28th so we can't have been that close to administration as the takeover must have been "on" at least from Aug 22nd.ManCityX said:Jo wasn't bought by Hughes and the fee is broken up over a long period of time. Kompany and SWP signed when the takeover was 'on'. Kompany has hinted as such with comments such as 'they told me something big was about to happen'.
He has so far stated that the team is unbalanced & he now states that he knew what the team needed from day 1 but did fuck all to put it right (or is he a bullshitter)? I would hardly call that inspirational management. The truth of the matter is that Hughes is the 2008 version of Alan Ball except that Ball had achieved promotion with one of the clubs he managed - Hughes has achieved fuck all.