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Competent keeper but nowhere near world class. Has the gall to publicly challenge the manager on television and also to presume to tell the world what Hart is thinking as well. Get rid now imo. I expect and hope Mancini to play hardball here.
 
Won't be too bothered if he goes to be honest. For respect to Shay and as a gesture for the years he's given the PL, I hope he gets a transfer to Arsenal and goes onto win a trophy. As far as we are concerned, we are in a prime position to have an established international keeper for the next 10-15 years in our goal. Is vital Hart is given the number 1 jersey his year. He proved at Brum he can cut it, and so with the players we now have its important we use the role set by Taggart with Schmeichel, and establish a keeper who will be first choice for years and years to come. Hart is that keeper, Shay isn't.
 
If Shay goes, we badly need a competant #2 quickly in the vein of Cudicini. Any idea? Someone reliable from Spain or Italy?
 
Shay is a better keeper than Hart.

It would be mad also to sell him to Arsenal, why make them stronger?
 
Big John said:
Shay is a better keeper than Hart.

It would be mad also to sell him to Arsenal, why make them stronger?
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I used to say that, about Shay being the better keeper, but having watched Hart's displays for Brum last year i'm not so sure now. Besides, Given is 34, therefore he has what, 3 or 4 top years left? Thats great in the short-term, but long-term we need a keeper who is automatically first choice, and Hart can be that keeper for the next 15 years, literally. Putting Given in now with the young defence we have, only to replace him in 2 or 3 years would be silly in my view, especially at this point in where we are.
 
Why the outrage at Given? Hart has said the same, if not worse, on a number of occasions. Why should Mancini play 'hard ball' with Given and not him??

Anyway, it looks like we won't be getting to keep both of them so Mancini needs to make a call. Personally, I think Given is still the better 'keeper but I really don't want us to loose Hart as the boy has a great future ahead of him and is likely to become better than Given has ever been.

My solution would be to sell Given abroad, or maybe ship him up to Celtic at a knock-down price. Letting him go to the Arse would be absolute madness.
 
Big John said:
Shay is a better keeper than Hart.

It would be mad also to sell him to Arsenal, why make them stronger?
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When we first signed Shay I wouldn't argue at all now I will Hart was in the PFA Team of the season for a reason he was the best keeper in the Premier League last season.

Hughes signed Shay because he thought our defensive problems were down to Hart yet anyone who saw Shay's debut V Boro knows it showed that wasn't the case he had to be at his best to save us from a good hiding. Shay is the better shot stopper Hart is a much better all rounder.
 
No he isn't.

Hart comes off his line, commands his area, can distribute the ball and can catch. Given is poor at all of them, and before we get the shot stopper nonsense thrown up, how long before a ball he could have caught (but he bizarrely allows it to bounce off his chest instead) comes out to the opposition who then score from the rebound?

Let him go.
Big John said:
Shay is a better keeper than Hart.

It would be mad also to sell him to Arsenal, why make them stronger?
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Bluemoonbaldboy said:
Big John said:
Shay is a better keeper than Hart.

It would be mad also to sell him to Arsenal, why make them stronger?
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When we first signed Shay I wouldn't argue at all now I will Hart was in the PFA Team of the season for a reason he was the best keeper in the Premier League last season.

Hughes signed Shay because he thought our defensive problems were down to Hart yet anyone who saw Shay's debut V Boro knows it showed that wasn't the case he had to be at his best to save us from a good hiding. Shay is the better shot stopper Hart is a much better all rounder.
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This sums them up perfectly, definitley play hart for me, if he's not better he's as good and will only get better and do it for years
 
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