malg said:Unfortunately, as there is so, so, so much money in this climate change stuff you will absolutely never convince me that 'outside' influences have nothing whatsoever to do with it. Where there's money, you can be damn sure you'll find corruption. I read far too much Private Eye! And the more people try to convince by saying 'trust the scientists' the more sceptical I get.
I agree with the bloke above - it won't affect me so I probably don't give a shite. I'm more concerned about getting a job, or City winning another trophy next season, or Silva signing a new contract.
BulgarianPride said:Come on now, post the long term data. I'd like to see it compared to the current data we've got and see if there are any sampling variations.
and also post the driving factor for the previous climate changes.
blueinsa said:I think that the majority of papers are written by scientists, funded by people or organisations with agendas or something to gain.
Environmentalists and governments go virtually hand in hand these days with parties desperate to gain the so called green vote and green taxes suit both down to the ground.
Damocles said:BulgarianPride said:Come on now, post the long term data. I'd like to see it compared to the current data we've got and see if there are any sampling variations.
and also post the driving factor for the previous climate changes.
Why's it always me who has to do your research for you? You're arguing against the scientific consensus, Google it your bloody self!
BulgarianPride said:Damocles said:BulgarianPride said:Come on now, post the long term data. I'd like to see it compared to the current data we've got and see if there are any sampling variations.
and also post the driving factor for the previous climate changes.
Why's it always me who has to do your research for you? You're arguing against the scientific consensus, Google it your bloody self!
I am not arguing against any consensus.
Seems you are emotionally involved in this topic, and you are clearly not thinking straight, otherwise you would agree with me
:)
Damocles said:BulgarianPride said:Come on now, post the long term data. I'd like to see it compared to the current data we've got and see if there are any sampling variations.
and also post the driving factor for the previous climate changes.
Why's it always me who has to do your research for you? You're arguing against the scientific consensus, Google it your bloody self!
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blueinsa said:I think that the majority of papers are written by scientists, funded by people or organisations with agendas or something to gain.
Environmentalists and governments go virtually hand in hand these days with parties desperate to gain the so called green vote and green taxes suit both down to the ground.
You don't seem to understand how papers get published.
Damocles said:BulgarianPride said:Damocles said:Why's it always me who has to do your research for you? You're arguing against the scientific consensus, Google it your bloody self!
I am not arguing against any consensus.
Seems you are emotionally involved in this topic, and you are clearly not thinking straight, otherwise you would agree with me
:)
"I'm not going to do any research. Now agree with me or you're wrong".
blueinsa said:They wont bite the hand that feeds them.
I remember a leading government scientist getting the sack not long ago because he went against what the government wanted him to say re drugs.
He refused to tow the party line!
Damocles said:blueinsa said:They wont bite the hand that feeds them.
I remember a leading government scientist getting the sack not long ago because he went against what the government wanted him to say re drugs.
He refused to tow the party line!
The Government have nothing to do with publishing scientific papers. The level of funding that they hand out to climate science is also embarrassingly small. In the US, the funding of climate science has barely risen for the past two decades.