GMP: Two Teenagers Arrested In Anti-Terror Raid

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Above anything it shows just how much the Muslim community is vigilant and supporting the police despite what the EDL wants us all to believe.

Like they did with the grooming gangs you mean.
I see your point.

The problem of paedophiles and exploration is far from limited to any religion or ethnic group and it has been a problem from the very top of the foot chain down to suggest otherwise is abhorrent? Or are you saying every white city fan should be held responsible for Stuart hall and everyone in the media responsible for saville.

That comment is pretty undisguised EDL shite and this board should be better than that!

Using the EDL or just calling some say a racist to discredit an argument is what the board should be above.

The point regarding the Muslim community and the Paedophile ring is a valid one There was a large group of people involved and probably even larger group who were aware of the groups actions and did nothing. It would be almost impossible to keep a group action like that a secret.

Stuart hall was an individual acting on his own and in private so the comparison is weak at best.

 

[whp.blue]

The problem of paedophiles and exploration is far from limited to any religion or ethnic group and it has been a problem from the very top of the foot chain down to suggest otherwise is abhorrent? Or are you saying every white city fan should be held responsible for Stuart hall and everyone in the media responsible for saville.

That comment is pretty undisguised EDL shite and this board should be better than that!

W12 has a fair point, the Muslim grooming gangs are exactly that , bringing the EDL into it is a smokescreen.

The point I thing Ealing is making is that there are other, non-Muslim, grooming gangs out there too, for example the Catholic Church has one or two priests not adversed to a little underage sex with boys therefore does that make all Catholics untrustworthy and law breakers?

Yes but I think you miss a very important point :if you used that argument about Catholic priests would anyone bring the EDL into the argument?

 

[squirtyflower]

W12 has a fair point, the Muslim grooming gangs are exactly that , bringing the EDL into it is a smokescreen.

The point I thing Ealing is making is that there are other, non-Muslim, grooming gangs out there too, for example the Catholic Church has one or two priests not adversed to a little underage sex with boys therefore does that make all Catholics untrustworthy and law breakers?

Yes but I think you miss a very important point :if you used that argument about Catholic priests would anyone bring the EDL into the argument?

Probably yes as the EDL are anti-papists

 

[EalingBlue2]

Like they did with the grooming gangs you mean.
I see your point.

The problem of paedophiles and exploration is far from limited to any religion or ethnic group and it has been a problem from the very top of the foot chain down to suggest otherwise is abhorrent? Or are you saying every white city fan should be held responsible for Stuart hall and everyone in the media responsible for saville.

That comment is pretty undisguised EDL shite and this board should be better than that!

Using the EDL or just calling some say a racist to discredit an argument is what the board should be above.

The point regarding the Muslim community and the Paedophile ring is a valid one There was a large group of people involved and probably even larger group who were aware of the groups actions and did nothing. It would be almost impossible to keep a group action like that a secret.

Stuart hall was an individual acting on his own and in private so the comparison is weak at best.

If labling a whole community or religion by the level of its worst isn't prejudiced or stereotyping I don't know what is! Whilst Stuart hall you may be right was on his own it is quite clear that was not true of the abuse and exploitation in either of our main churches or at the BBC or if allegations are true in parliament .

It was a not subtle overtly prejudiced comment against a whole community nothing more nothing less!

As for the EDL comment it is very apt one of their main propaganda tools is picking up the worst elements of an immigrant or religious community and then to try and paint it as widespread to create fear so I cannot think of a more relevant comment.

But such comments are almost daily in the cellar which is becoming a very comfortable place for anti immigrant, anti Muslim sentiment

 

[EalingBlue2]

The point I thing Ealing is making is that there are other, non-Muslim, grooming gangs out there too, for example the Catholic Church has one or two priests not adversed to a little underage sex with boys therefore does that make all Catholics untrustworthy and law breakers?

Yes but I think you miss a very important point :if you used that argument about Catholic priests would anyone bring the EDL into the argument?

Probably yes as the EDL are anti-papists

If there was a body very publicly and constantly trying to associate all Catholics as being essentially protective of paedophiles then yes I would call out that body be it EDL or whoever

 

[whp.blue]

The problem of paedophiles and exploration is far from limited to any religion or ethnic group and it has been a problem from the very top of the foot chain down to suggest otherwise is abhorrent? Or are you saying every white city fan should be held responsible for Stuart hall and everyone in the media responsible for saville.

That comment is pretty undisguised EDL shite and this board should be better than that!

Using the EDL or just calling some say a racist to discredit an argument is what the board should be above.

The point regarding the Muslim community and the Paedophile ring is a valid one There was a large group of people involved and probably even larger group who were aware of the groups actions and did nothing. It would be almost impossible to keep a group action like that a secret.

Stuart hall was an individual acting on his own and in private so the comparison is weak at best.

If labling a whole community or religion by the level of its worst isn't prejudiced or stereotyping I don't know what is! Whilst Stuart hall you may be right was on his own it is quite clear that was not true of the abuse and exploitation in either of our main churches or at the BBC or if allegations are true in parliament .

It was a not subtle overtly prejudiced comment against a whole community nothing more nothing less!

As for the EDL comment it is very apt one of their main propaganda tools is picking up the worst elements of an immigrant or religious community and then to try and paint it as widespread to create fear so I cannot think of a more relevant comment.

But such comments are almost daily in the cellar which is becoming a very comfortable place for anti immigrant, anti Muslim sentiment

This may not just in the cellar however unpalatable you may find this but there is an argument that the views of the country are being polarized with every terrorist act (normally carried out in the name of Islam) or Air Strike by Coalition air forces.
Immigration is also a rising concern as the shift to the right in British politics is a testament

 

[M18CTID]

The problem of paedophiles and exploration is far from limited to any religion or ethnic group and it has been a problem from the very top of the foot chain down to suggest otherwise is abhorrent? Or are you saying every white city fan should be held responsible for Stuart hall and everyone in the media responsible for saville.

That comment is pretty undisguised EDL shite and this board should be better than that!

Using the EDL or just calling some say a racist to discredit an argument is what the board should be above.

The point regarding the Muslim community and the Paedophile ring is a valid one There was a large group of people involved and probably even larger group who were aware of the groups actions and did nothing. It would be almost impossible to keep a group action like that a secret.

Stuart hall was an individual acting on his own and in private so the comparison is weak at best.

If labling a whole community or religion by the level of its worst isn't prejudiced or stereotyping I don't know what is! Whilst Stuart hall you may be right was on his own it is quite clear that was not true of the abuse and exploitation in either of our main churches or at the BBC or if allegations are true in parliament .

It was a not subtle overtly prejudiced comment against a whole community nothing more nothing less!

As for the EDL comment it is very apt one of their main propaganda tools is picking up the worst elements of an immigrant or religious community and then to try and paint it as widespread to create fear so I cannot think of a more relevant comment.

But such comments are almost daily in the cellar which is becoming a very comfortable place for anti immigrant, anti Muslim sentiment

From what I can see, no-one is tarring the whole Muslim community on this thread - it's just being pointed out that there will be some people within that community who will be covering up for the dubious actions of others, just like some people within the Catholic church covered up for the disgraceful acts of paedophile priests and some people within the BBC covered up for Savile.

There's nothing racist about pointing this out.

 

[stonerblue]

While its deeply concerning what is happening in society,and,as you say,on our doorstep......its equally satisfying to learn our counter terrorism units are very much on the ball and aware of these threats,i just hope they continue to be one step ahead of these shit bags.

Above anything it shows just how much the Muslim community is vigilant and supporting the police despite what the EDL wants us all to believe.

So does the fact that two people have been arrested preclude the possibility that there may be one ,tens,hundreds or even thousands of undiscovered people out there still plotting acts of terrorism?

This problem is getting worse not better and I feel we need to be much more vigilant and sceptical about certain communities.


and despite what anyone says Longsight is a problem area.

Longsight has a very ethnically diverse population(polite way of saying it's a Ghetto).

Maybe in your head

According to the 2011 UK census, 72.9% of the population is from non-white ethnic groups.

Believe it or not, English Christians come in all colours.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Using the EDL or just calling some say a racist to discredit an argument is what the board should be above.

The point regarding the Muslim community and the Paedophile ring is a valid one There was a large group of people involved and probably even larger group who were aware of the groups actions and did nothing. It would be almost impossible to keep a group action like that a secret.

Stuart hall was an individual acting on his own and in private so the comparison is weak at best.

If labling a whole community or religion by the level of its worst isn't prejudiced or stereotyping I don't know what is! Whilst Stuart hall you may be right was on his own it is quite clear that was not true of the abuse and exploitation in either of our main churches or at the BBC or if allegations are true in parliament .

It was a not subtle overtly prejudiced comment against a whole community nothing more nothing less!

As for the EDL comment it is very apt one of their main propaganda tools is picking up the worst elements of an immigrant or religious community and then to try and paint it as widespread to create fear so I cannot think of a more relevant comment.

But such comments are almost daily in the cellar which is becoming a very comfortable place for anti immigrant, anti Muslim sentiment

This may not just in the cellar however unpalatable you may find this but there is an argument that the views of the country are being polarized with every terrorist act (normally carried out in the name of Islam) or Air Strike by Coalition air forces.
Immigration is also a rising concern as the shift to the right in British politics is a testament

Fair enough and I didn't bite at that - I bit at someone snidely trying to lable a whole community as protecting The sexual exploitation of children . That type of generalisation and labelling whole communities is the tactic the BNP, EDL use though even they might try to be a bit more subtle.

 

[whp.blue]

Using the EDL or just calling some say a racist to discredit an argument is what the board should be above.

The point regarding the Muslim community and the Paedophile ring is a valid one There was a large group of people involved and probably even larger group who were aware of the groups actions and did nothing. It would be almost impossible to keep a group action like that a secret.

Stuart hall was an individual acting on his own and in private so the comparison is weak at best.

If labling a whole community or religion by the level of its worst isn't prejudiced or stereotyping I don't know what is! Whilst Stuart hall you may be right was on his own it is quite clear that was not true of the abuse and exploitation in either of our main churches or at the BBC or if allegations are true in parliament .

It was a not subtle overtly prejudiced comment against a whole community nothing more nothing less!

As for the EDL comment it is very apt one of their main propaganda tools is picking up the worst elements of an immigrant or religious community and then to try and paint it as widespread to create fear so I cannot think of a more relevant comment.

But such comments are almost daily in the cellar which is becoming a very comfortable place for anti immigrant, anti Muslim sentiment

From what I can see, no-one is tarring the whole Muslim community on this thread - it's just being pointed out that there will be some people within that community who will be covering up for the dubious actions of others, just like some people within the Catholic church covered up for the disgraceful acts of paedophile priests and some people within the BBC covered up for Savile.

There's nothing racist about pointing this out.

You must be quite new to the cellar
I must say this is a terrible post you never implied anyone was a paid up member of the EDL BNP or was either a racist or a Nazi

On this board is is essential if you are not to be labelled a RWNJ or a Nazi for defending your country!
The Muslim community can only ever be praised on this forum even when they are only doing the minimum you would expect from a civilized person IE reporting acts of terrorism.

Ps posting sense like that will alienate you from both sides in the Cellar