Goverment to insist clubs give 25% to fans!

Interesting this. Personally I'd be in favour as we are the only people who really care about our clubs' futures.

However, after my post about the new stadium and talking about there being two plans, I've had a couple of pm's from people that have helped explain some of the things going on, particularly how they could fill a potential 100,000 seater stadium at higher prices than a 70,000 seater and also the Chairman's comments about the Premier League becoming more like the American model.

It might also explain Ian Watmore's departure from the FA and why the Glazers won't sell to the Red Knights.

The information was confidential but I'm trying to persuade them to go public. It confirms how influential our owner(s) have become in the game but is also potentially very controversial.
 
The idea on giving fans a say in the club as part of this stake is a good idea as after all the fans are the ones who back the club and have it at heart. The bad idea is giving supporter groups a say in on every level how a club is run, i'd rather leave the management side of any business to the people who know how rather than the incompetent. It works at lower league sides who are wholly funded and run like a charity by their fans anyway but not for large clubs.

Wish all these people who suggest crap like this would get over the fact that foreign ownership coming into football is inevitable, there will always be teams with money and teams without thats a fact of life not just in football but in every business and industry in the world, things like what happened at Portsmouth are just an example of mismanagement.
 
inbetween said:
Wish all these people who suggest crap like this would get over the fact that foreign ownership coming into football is inevitable, there will always be teams with money and teams without thats a fact of life not just in football but in every business and industry in the world, things like what happened at Portsmouth are just an example of mismanagement.

You only have to look at the NFL to see how things should be run. In 2008, the top earning team grossed just under $350m and the lowest just under $210m. so the lowest earning team earned just less than Liverpool and the highest just a bit more than Arsenal & Chelsea.
 
inbetween said:
Wish all these people who suggest crap like this would get over the fact that foreign ownership coming into football is inevitable, there will always be teams with money and teams without thats a fact of life not just in football but in every business and industry in the world,

But that's not why we support a "sport" team. If we wanted football to be like any other industry then the rags would have put us out of business by now. They'd probably have United Locals, and United Metros next door to Stockport and Bury (hmmm maybe FC wasn't so innocent after all).

Football is nowhere near as competitive as it was 20 years ago and if we don't start drawing back then it'll just get worse.

The comparison with the expenses scandal is interesting because on the issue of players wages we have the bureaucrats, the managers, many chief execs, pundits etc all sitting on the fence. Why? Because they are all now paid many times what they would have got twenty years ago, and are part of the problem.

The only reason we're shaking(!) things up is because, with Randy Lerner, there are now six teams with plenty of cash. Things have to change and it won't be started by those already on the gravy train.
 
The government should be able to stay out of football - so long as the financial vultures stay out too.

Money doesn't have morals - football is f***** up already - but it's not beyond help.
 
Politics aside there is some sense in a proposal like this, HMRC are getting well p*ssed off with a few pence in the pound CVA agreemenmts when clubs overspend "chasing the dream" and being second to football creditors too. They are starting to close 'em down (Chester, Kings Lynn, Farsley Celtic). Pompey should have been too, as they are clearly insolvent, but they couldn't have allowed a top flight club to go, oh no, and what a feckin mess the F.A cup would have been left in! Cardiff will be very very lucky if they suirvive, they have built a luvverly new stadium but have'nt paid the taxman!!
 
Cleaned this up as (predictably) the thread contained more posts purely about politics than the original subject. Unfortunately, it was also turning into a slanging match :-(
 
Fans should never ever be allowed to run a football club, it's a recipie for disaster.

Plus this is all bollocks, Labour look like losing out in the general election next month and this is a shitty ploy to get the millions of football fans on their side.
 

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