Greenland and Donald Trump.

Trump doesn't like windmills, they kill birds and whales in Trumpania.
They also spoil the view from his golf course according to him.
One of the biggest manufacturers of offshore windmills is Vestas and Vestas is a Danish company.

Just all coincidental.
 
cleavers said:
Strange comment, the US wouldn't find anything to fire at in the first place. Like I said above their (US) planes are in and out quite regularly, and not just at their base in the far north, in fact no real idea how many go there, as it mainly isn't covered by the radar.
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It's not a strange comment in the slightest if you actually took the trouble to read the post that I replied to.
 
He's actually going to take it isn't he. This is a litmus test, he wants to see how much or more accurately how little resistance there is to him taking land from supposed allies. Reality is there will be no pushback, condemnation amounting to writing a strongly worded letter of complaint is about the worst that will happen. A couple of sanctions perhaps which will then see Trump retaliate with a further increase in tariffs.

Then whilst stripping Greenland of all its resources, he'll see how allies respond before looking at much bigger prospects. Canada should be very fearful of this. I think the fuck tard is working his way up to genuinely trying to claim Canada.

Then you've got the wider global impact, China and Russia will see it as a green light to do whatever the fuck they want too.

Best we can hope for is the fucker dies soon, the rest of the Maga lunatics disappear like nazi's fleeing to south America and they can get somebody even mildly competent to attempt to start to undo all the catastrophic damage he's caused. Meanwhile, us and the rest of NATO and Europe need to learn a hard lesson here and be acrively working hard to make ourselves far less reliant on America as they've proven their people can no longer be trusted. They should be paying for their idiocy in bringing Trump back to power for decades to come.
 
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MillionMilesAway said:
Yes, that's one reason I think he'll duck. He's still ruled by his own image and he'd lose a lot of leverage and exposure.

Also, at that point, he's committed and there's no easy way to avoid the backlash which he won't be able to control.

It's being reported that he'll make an offer to buy it. I don't think that the Greenlanders want to be a non-state territory.
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Hes just said he’s taking all the cash from 30m-50m barrels of oil Venezuela are giving him. Should be a couple billion. My bet is he’ll use it to try and buy Greenland.
 
Blue and true said:
As others have already said, the rationale that the US need it for security reasons falls apart under the most negligible of scrutiny. It's NATO territory, the US is a member of NATO, and they already have bases on the island anyway. This isn't some menacing state that is threatening US sovereignty.

The rhetoric of his lackeys has taken a telling shift; "our hemisphere", "nobody will fight us", "why should Denmark have a claim to Greenland". This rhetoric is illustrative as to why he wants it, because he's an imperialist ****. And he's an imperialist **** whose time is running out. That's the reason. Anyone who can't see that is either a.) a total fucking idiot, or b.) a cultist. At least a.) can be forgiven.

However, I don't think he'll claim Greenland. He's an unhinged maniac, but I think this would be his Rubicon.
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Pretty much exactly what I was going to say.
 
I don't for a second think he'll do this, and all the talk is just for attention/distraction, but for fucks sake just blockade us or something. The fact this is even a discussion is so far beyond ridiculous. Treat us like a spoiled toddler throwing a tantrum and put us in time out, cause that's what we've seeming devolved to
 
I sit here as a FOC who did 22 years in Germany as a 'cold war warrior' and think what was it for? NATO is not what it was, the 'peace dividend' was eagerly (some might say joyously) grabbed by Europe (us included) as an excuse to run down their armed forces. Shortly after the wall went down the first gulf war kicked off and the British Army of the Rhein had to cannibalise most of our heavy metal just to put an armoured division in the field. Unfortunately Europe just isn't strong enough to stand alone, if it was I'd like to think the Ukraine war would be over. Like the gunboats of Royal Navy or the East India Company in the 17th and 18th centuries the power of the American military enables them to take what they want and for once (and unfortunately for the world) America seems to have a president who wants it all.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
If this actually happens, then contrary to some opinions in this thread, I think there's no way this is just shrugged off and forgotten about. The Trump administration might have no idea where the line is, but I think they're about to bump into it big time. I hope I'm wrong but I have very little faith in cool heads prevailing in our current world, everybody has lost their goddamn mind. It's not just the mad orange ****, it's the band of dunderheaded ravenous wolves that surround him every day.

The ramifications of invading Greenland could be a lighting of the touchpaper - and that's not to say it would result in direct conflict - but the world order would be irrevocably changed. NATO as we know it would be over, perhaps replaced by something else, but certainly will never be the same.

All kinds of questions then get put on the table. China would be seriously looking at Taiwan for a start. The global reserve currency becomes an open question. Trade warring and economic sanction have to be considered. Boycotts of US events - the World Cup this year and the Olympics in 2028. In that kind of frenetic environment, the US economy which many think is already at elevated levels could take a plunge, and all of the world's pension schemes and investments with it. Debt could spiral from bond sell-offs, inflation rockets back up again. Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the consequences of the economic tumult that caused will look like a cakewalk.
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Probably best they don’t invade Greenland then!!!
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
If this actually happens, then contrary to some opinions in this thread, I think there's no way this is just shrugged off and forgotten about. The Trump administration might have no idea where the line is, but I think they're about to bump into it big time. I hope I'm wrong but I have very little faith in cool heads prevailing in our current world, everybody has lost their goddamn mind. It's not just the mad orange ****, it's the band of dunderheaded ravenous wolves that surround him every day.

The ramifications of invading Greenland could be a lighting of the touchpaper - and that's not to say it would result in direct conflict - but the world order would be irrevocably changed. NATO as we know it would be over, perhaps replaced by something else, but certainly will never be the same.

All kinds of questions then get put on the table. China would be seriously looking at Taiwan for a start. The global reserve currency becomes an open question. Trade warring and economic sanction have to be considered. Boycotts of US events - the World Cup this year and the Olympics in 2028. In that kind of frenetic environment, the US economy which many think is already at elevated levels could take a plunge, and all of the world's pension schemes and investments with it. Debt could spiral from bond sell-offs, inflation rockets back up again. Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the consequences of the economic tumult that caused will look like a cakewalk.
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I don’t know exactly what would happen but the scenario you paint has the ring of truth, ie it would be devastating to the western alliance.
 
ninjamonkey said:
He's actually going to take it isn't he. This is a litmus test, he wants to see how much or more accurately how little resistance there is to him taking land from supposed allies. Reality is there will be no pushback, condemnation amounting to writing a strongly worded letter of complaint is about the worst that will happen. A couple of sanctions perhaps which will then see Trump retaliate with a further increase in tariffs.

Then whilstresources, stripping Greenland of all its resources, he'll see how allies respond before looking at much bigger prospects. Canada should be very fearful of this. I think the fuck tard is working his way up to genuinely trying to claim Canada.

Then you've got the wider global impact, China and Russia will see it as a green light to do whatever the fuck they want too.

Best we can hope for is the fucker dies soon, the rest of the Maga lunatics disappear like nazi's fleeing to south America and they can get somebody even mildly competent to attempt to start to undo all the catastrophic damage he's caused. Meanwhile, us and the rest of NATO and Europe need to learn a hard lesson here and be acrively working hard to make ourselves far less reliant on America as they've proven their people can no longer be trusted. They should be paying for their idiocy in bringing Trump back to power for decades to come.
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We will all be paying for the damage he has done.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
Always helpful to hear advice on how folks should think from the guy who assured us Trump was just a run-of-the-mill GOPer and no one would remember anything he did ten years from now.
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Actually I said that he's an idiot and nothing he does matters because it will be immediately reversed when he leaves. Which is still true. But nice of you to chirp in again to me you stupid ****
 
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