Grenfell Tower block disaster

[Bluemanc100]

That's the question though, isn't it? Why exactly were the fire and building regulations weak, or more to the point why had they been made weaker over the past few years. Ostensibly to cut red tape. For that read to make it easier for the landlords to get away with spending as little as possible while maximising their profits, at the cost of putting peoples, poor peoples, lives at risk. That is what the anger and protest is about and it doesn't stop at buiding regulations. The interests of the less well off have been neglected to breaking point. That's something else that we can chalk down to "austerity". After 40 years of right wing governments what more could be expected.

If you are right then somebody is for the high jump and rightly so....

It would have to be signed off at the very highest level if true

 

[nmc]

They can't even grieve in peace. I can't begin to imagine how I'd react if I was shoved into that situation. I'll be honest, I'd have probably been on the frontline storming the council building.

Me too...

 

[Bigga]

'Newsnight' looks like it may be interesting....

 

[Bigga]

'Newsnight' looks like it may be interesting....

Fook me, Sweeney looks like he's brickin' it!!

 

[nmc]

Not sure if it's been posted but there's a story in the Guardian re the cladding used on the tower being a cheap less fire retardant option - could be interesting - who specified this? £2 per metre cheaper! What price a life.

 

[Bigga]

Not sure if it's been posted but there's a story in the Guardian re the cladding used on the tower being a cheap less fire retardant option - could be interesting - who specified this? £2 per metre cheaper! What price a life.

Almost word for word what I said to my wife, tonight, about the cost.

Shocking.

 

[Mike N]

Fook me, Sweeney looks like he's brickin' it!!

LOL. Thought the same thing!

 

[urban genie]

Not sure if it's been posted but there's a story in the Guardian re the cladding used on the tower being a cheap less fire retardant option - could be interesting - who specified this? £2 per metre cheaper! What price a life.

Read that myself, basically the cladding company have admitted that the company doing the refurb asked for the cheaper less fire resistant cladding , a fucking disgrace imho(not the supplier they only sold what was ordered, the refubers are the bastards)

 

[manchester blue]

Thanks for the information.
Sadly I doubt that sprinklers can be retrofitted to tall buildings as the mains water pressure isn't high enough. The top floor of every building would have to be converted to a massive water tank and when full that would be very heavy - most buildings would not be able to take the weight.
Passive fire protection in high rise buildings works if it isn't side stepped by inflatable cladding to make it a death trap.

Over three floors high water pressure for normal usage needs to be pumped to get a decent pressure. I'd imagine sprinklers would have to be a similar system. It's not beyond engineers to come up with suitable solutions.

 

[city2]

It's all about greed that's the top and bottom of it.