Grenfell Tower block disaster

I'm amazed that only tonight are the local council saying they'll start looking for interim accommodation for the victims!! We're not some backwards 3rd world country ffs, this should have been stated first thing Tuesday!! It makes the Yanks at hurricane Katrina look fucking competent
 
Thanks for the information.
Sadly I doubt that sprinklers can be retrofitted to tall buildings as the mains water pressure isn't high enough. The top floor of every building would have to be converted to a massive water tank and when full that would be very heavy - most buildings would not be able to take the weight.
Passive fire protection in high rise buildings works if it isn't side stepped by inflatable cladding to make it a death trap.
Actually in a lot of buildings it could be.

I was watching the news the other day and they said three or four floors in this building were not occupied, set aside, which usually means for plantrooms, heating, chilled water, gas etc. It would be easy to install sprinkler systems to this type of building.

For buildings with full occupancy, I guess it would have to entail vacating certain flats, or even whole floors to install these systems.

Also, booster pumps can be fitted to each floor for sprinkler systems, although you would probably have to have many inlets into the building so they can run off different circuits, much like back-up systems for electrical circuits.
 
I'm amazed that only tonight are the local council saying they'll start looking for interim accommodation for the victims!! We're not some backwards 3rd world country ffs, this should have been stated first thing Tuesday!! It makes the Yanks at hurricane Katrina look fucking competent

No we are not, but unfortunately for 98% of the country's population the government treats us like we are.
 
That's the question though, isn't it? Why exactly were the fire and building regulations weak, or more to the point why had they been made weaker over the past few years. Ostensibly to cut red tape. For that read to make it easier for the landlords to get away with spending as little as possible while maximising their profits, at the cost of putting peoples, poor peoples, lives at risk. That is what the anger and protest is about and it doesn't stop at buiding regulations. The interests of the less well off have been neglected to breaking point. That's something else that we can chalk down to "austerity". After 40 years of right wing governments what more could be expected.

https://www.theguardian.com/society...-ensure-rented-homes-fit-for-human-habitation

Exactly right, the landlords basically lobby the politicians because they don't want to increase their costs = politicians fall into line.
 
The fact is a lot of money was spent on making the building less unsightly for the benefit of the rich neighbours

Is that a fact?

Or just something thats now been repeated so often it seems like a fact?
 
That is low,cunts
Just been on the Mail's site and they have pretty much hung drawn and quartered the company and directors who put the cladding on.

Can someone answer whether they did anything wrong or whether they simply performed the contract they were assigned to the regulations that were in place?
 
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The support measures announced by Downing Street include:

:: Residents of Grenfell Tower will be rehoused at the earliest possible opportunity, within three weeks at the latest.

:: People will be rehoused as close as possible to their previous address, either in Kensington and Chelsea borough or a neighbouring borough, in order for them to access their same schools and GPs.

:: The cost of temporary accommodation will be covered until they are rehoused, with the Government also providing cash for any extra expense incurred by children travelling to their local school.

:: A £5m Grenfell Tower Residents' Discretionary Fund will be made available immediately to Kensington and Chelsea Council to help cover the loss of possessions, pay for funerals and pay for emergency supplies.

:: The Treasury will work with banks to ensure those who lost bank cards can still access their accounts.

:: The Department for Work and Pensions will work with job centres to ensure continued access to benefits and pensions.

:: Victims of the fire will be consulted on the terms of reference for the public inquiry into the disaster.

:: Victims and their families will receive state funding for legal representation at the public inquiry.

:: Experienced civil servants from the Department for Communities and Local Government have been sent to assist Kensington and Chelsea Council.


To reassure people living in similar high-rise tower blocks, the Government is:

:: Checking "at speed" with local authorities whether all high-rise buildings in their area have complied with recent fire orders, where work has been deemed required following an inspection.

:: Conducting a fire safety review of all buildings similar to Grenfell Tower.

http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-m...ll-tower-fire-victims-in-three-weeks-10917886
Seems reasonable.
 
Just been on the Mail's site and they have pretty much hung drawn and quartered the company and directors who put the cladding on.

Can someone answer whether they did anything wrong or whether they simply performed the contract they were assigned to the regulations that were in place?
Someone posted earlier in this thread that the more expensive, less flammable cladding had been rejected in favour of the less expensive, more flammable one. The more expensive one costing a whole £2 a metre more than the cheaper one that was chosen. I wonder who went for the cheaper option, the contactor or the owners.
 

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