Guidetti (at Celtic)

FantasyIreland said:
He got another yesterday,and,while the league isn't a great standard......his tally is impressive.He obviously thrives on confidence and,along with his fitness,it looks like he has regained it.
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Well he wont get that from the people in charge at our club, with that latest revelation..
Celtic claim a fee was agreed with Manchester City for John Guidetti prior to them taking the striker on loan..
 
FantasyIreland said:
He's been here 6? years..... and not once has he come close to being a first team regular.There are many reasons for that,however,i'd like to offer fate as another......with everything that has happened to him,it seems John was never destined to play for us.

Get the fee,wish him well,hope for a sell on......and move on.
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Agree with this. Its also best for his career, he needs to get unlimited playing time at his age after long injury. We get little cash, he gets his career back on track.
 
I am pleased for the lad but to put it into context remember Samaras regularly banged in 25-30 goals a season in that league.
 
He has proved in Holland and Scotland that when fit and given a run of games he can score goals, he didn't get that opportunity in England due to his illness.

It's proving difficult at City for youth to get a chance these days and I can't see it changing until we have done the 5 trophies in 5 years thingy.
 
paulchapo said:
I am pleased for the lad but to put it into context remember Samaras regularly banged in 25-30 goals a season in that league.
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I'm sorry, but when did this happen? From what I can find he scored less than 75 goals in six seasons (a dozen of which were in Europe) with his best return being 17 and failing to even reach double figures 3 times.

Admittedly his goal return was better in Scotland than England, but he wasn't even half as successful as you claim.
 
Listerfiend said:
paulchapo said:
I am pleased for the lad but to put it into context remember Samaras regularly banged in 25-30 goals a season in that league.
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I'm sorry, but when did this happen? From what I can find he scored less than 75 goals in six seasons (a dozen of which were in Europe) with his best return being 17 and failing to even reach double figures 3 times.

Admittedly his goal return was better in Scotland than England, but he wasn't even half as successful as you claim.
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Are you not aware of the BM 'licence to exaggerate/makes things up when it suits' rule? Surprising..... as it gets used quite often.
 
Glad to hear he's doing well in a League with regular game time.
Probably best for his career if he stays on there to continue a run of form.

Hopefully City can start giving Youth more time.
Is it fans that are pressurising the club to be successful or is it the general media which is putting the pressure on to maintain a "galactico" approach to running the first team squad?

I'd rather watch a team of many locally produced regulars and NOT win much than a team like we have now.
Superb football but that's just me - I want local lads wearing the sky blue shirt, hopefully displaying superb football as well.
 
Listerfiend said:
paulchapo said:
I am pleased for the lad but to put it into context remember Samaras regularly banged in 25-30 goals a season in that league.
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I'm sorry, but when did this happen? From what I can find he scored less than 75 goals in six seasons (a dozen of which were in Europe) with his best return being 17 and failing to even reach double figures 3 times.

Admittedly his goal return was better in Scotland than England, but he wasn't even half as successful as you claim.
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You are correct i blame old age,lol!

2008 → Celtic (loan) 16 (5)
2008–2014 Celtic 155 (52)
 
Apparently Hull are in for him at £2million. If we can manage to get a sell on percentage out of that deal I'd consider that ok business considering he's free come summer.
 
MC ID said:
Apparently Hull are in for him at £2million. If we can manage to get a sell on percentage out of that deal I'd consider that ok business considering he's free come summer.
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If Hull buy him, surely they buy him from us?
 
malg said:
MC ID said:
Apparently Hull are in for him at £2million. If we can manage to get a sell on percentage out of that deal I'd consider that ok business considering he's free come summer.
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If Hull buy him, surely they buy him from us?
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Of course, he is still our player.
 
We'll be able to get more than £2m for him. I'm sure Celtic would look to buy him and we should be looking at closer to £5m. Depends on the contract situation I suppose. He isn't likely to sign another deal with us unless we guarantee first team football, which we can't.
 
malg said:
MC ID said:
Apparently Hull are in for him at £2million. If we can manage to get a sell on percentage out of that deal I'd consider that ok business considering he's free come summer.
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If Hull buy him, surely they buy him from us?
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Yeah. I think you misunderstood, I meant as part of our deal to sell him to them we put in a future sell on percentage clause in the contract, like Southampton did with Bale for example. Not sure what percent we could negotiate but considering a player like Long went for something like £12million, if we get a healthy amount on a sell on fee we could be looking at pretty decent money for him down the line considering we get fuck all in six months.
 
jimharri said:
Did himself no favours today. Went down and won a penalty for Celtic, and there was no contact on him whatsoever.
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To be fair, I think he just lost his footing and slipped.

However, sickening to see that given and not the one on Sergio...
 
pudge said:
jimharri said:
Did himself no favours today. Went down and won a penalty for Celtic, and there was no contact on him whatsoever.
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To be fair, I think he just lost his footing and slipped.

However, sickening to see that given and not the one on Sergio...
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Not sure he slipped, to be honest. I guess only he knows for sure.
 
jimharri said:
pudge said:
jimharri said:
Did himself no favours today. Went down and won a penalty for Celtic, and there was no contact on him whatsoever.
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To be fair, I think he just lost his footing and slipped.

However, sickening to see that given and not the one on Sergio...
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Not sure he slipped, to be honest. I guess only he knows for sure.
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I only saw a replay of the incident on SSN, not sure if he appealed for one or not.
 
Ronny Deila has backed Celtic striker John Guidetti after his penalty controversy against Hearts.
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Guidetti won and scored a spot-kick in Sunday's 4-0 Scottish Cup win at Tynecastle but replays showed that the on-loan Manchester City forward went down in the box under no contact from defender Brad McKay.

It is understood the Scottish Football Association's compliance officer, Tony McGlennan, will not take retrospective action and, speaking ahead of Wednesday's Scottish Premiership game against Partick Thistle, Deila defended his player's integrity.

"Maybe it was not a penalty but it is a long way from there to diving," Deila said.

"It looked like he slipped a bit so it is nothing, it is a decision the referee has made. Of course I understand the discussion but he didn't do anything wrong."


"Maybe it was not a penalty but it is a long way from there to diving."


Asked if Guidetti should have told referee Willie Collum there had been no contact, the Norwegian added: "No, as a player you don't know everything that is happening.

"When you play you play to win and you are so focused on winning.

"We don't want cheats, that's an important thing, but I don't think he was wanting a penalty. Things happen in the game and over a long season it will even out, that's how it is going to be.

"This situation isn't the reason why we won this game, we had a lot of chances and we deserved to win."
 
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