Gushing over royals

What I think funny from the moaning republicans on here is the fact they get annoyed at the royal family keeping in effect 15% of the Crown Estate profits but have no issue what so ever with the ruling family of the UAE using what is in effect public money (or money kept by the royals and not put to the use of the UAE citizens) for a football club they support.
 
Well yes, except that the Queen receives 10% of the Crown Estate revenues, surely enough to pay for her own decorating. And from where does the crown estate spring? Try looking first at the rape of the north by Williams men.
The times dictated how wealth was accrued, what you're suggesting is that wealth obtained by conquest, or simply
being more powerful than the next warlord, should somehow be revised and distributed to everyone, as these methods
are no longer employed. Freehold householders would also fall under the same scrutiny.
 
The times dictated how wealth was accrued, what you're suggesting is that wealth obtained by conquest, or simply
being more powerful than the next warlord, should somehow be revised and distributed to everyone, as these methods
are no longer employed. Freehold householders would also fall under the same scrutiny.
It's a hugely dangerous road to go down, applying contemporary standards retrospectively and seizing assets off people that they are lawfully entitled to. Who's the arbiter as to what foregoing behaviour was acceptable and unacceptable?

Would people advocating it turn down an unexpected inheritance if they discovered it derived from a grand larceny that occurred a couple of centuries ago? I suspect not.
 
It's a hugely dangerous road to go down, applying contemporary standards retrospectively and seizing assets off people that they are lawfully entitled to. Who's the arbiter as to what foregoing behaviour was acceptable and unacceptable?

Would people advocating it turn down an unexpected inheritance if they discovered it derived from a grand larceny that occurred a couple of centuries ago? I suspect not.

Quite!
I personally think the Danes were a bad idea before the Normans.
 
Prince George starts school today. Prepare yourselves for an additional 48 hours of media "gushing".

He's going to an ordinary school - only £18,000 a year ! FFS. He will packed off to Eton in no time... Do feel sorry for the little sod but no time for the RF.
 
It's a hugely dangerous road to go down, applying contemporary standards retrospectively and seizing assets off people that they are lawfully entitled to. Who's the arbiter as to what foregoing behaviour was acceptable and unacceptable?

Would people advocating it turn down an unexpected inheritance if they discovered it derived from a grand larceny that occurred a couple of centuries ago? I suspect not.
Absolutely, look where it gets a country (see Zimbabwe in recent past and RSA at present where a civil war in brewing on the horizon).
 
[QUTE="gordondaviesmoustache, post: 10459811, member: 33343"]It's a hugely dangerous road to go down, applying contemporary standards retrospectively and seizing assets off people that they are lawfully entitled to. Who's the arbiter as to what foregoing behaviour was acceptable and unacceptable?

Would people advocating it turn down an unexpected inheritance if they discovered it derived from a grand larceny that occurred a couple of centuries ago? I suspect not.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, if you're living in inherited property, there is more than a fair chance that back in the mists of time, some warlord
or other could have murdered the entire local population and then created his own dynasty around the area.
If someone could retrospectively then prove, by employing the best ancestry researchers on the planet, that one of his
ancestors was turfed out of his cottage and strung up, you could then look at that gaff with it's 10 acres and demand the residents
quit the property.
 
It's a hugely dangerous road to go down, applying contemporary standards retrospectively and seizing assets off people that they are lawfully entitled to. Who's the arbiter as to what foregoing behaviour was acceptable and unacceptable?

Would people advocating it turn down an unexpected inheritance if they discovered it derived from a grand larceny that occurred a couple of centuries ago? I suspect not.
I suggested no such thing. I merely pointed out the source of royal wealth. If I were to develop that theme, I would suggest that, rather than disentangle the warrant, the source carries with it a moral obligation. For example, the Duchy of Cornwall extracts £20m per annum in rents from one of the poorest counties in England and that carries an obligation. You may say that Charles fulfils that with his charities, but farmers struggling on an income of less than 10k p.a. might not agree with you and would prefer some rent relief. It is the lack of awareness by the aristocracy of this moral obligation that needs to be addressed. I'll give you a reverse example. Some of the great estates in Scotland have, in recent years, handed over large parcels of land to newly created bodies to own on behalf on the local people and for income generated to be used for the common benefit. So it can be done. MORE please !
Edit: you should look up the history of the enclosure acts to see how landowners forced people to give up their rights over common land. These measures were partly reversed by Blair's right to roam. More needs to be done..... I would reverse the enclosure acts and restore, for example, common grazing rights.
 
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I suggested no such thing. I merely pointed out the source of royal wealth. If I were to develop that theme, I would suggest that, rather than disentangle the warrant, the source carries with it a moral obligation. For example, the Duchy of Cornwall extracts £20m per annum in rents from one of the poorest counties in England and that carries an obligation. You may say that Charles fulfils that with his charities, but farmers struggling on an income of less than 10k p.a. might not agree with you and would prefer some rent relief. It is the lack of awareness by the aristocracy of this moral obligation that needs to be addressed. I'll give you a reverse example. Some of the great estates in Scotland have, in recent years, handed over large parcels of land to newly created bodies to own on behalf on the local people and for income generated to be used for the common benefit. So it can be done. MORE please !
Cornwall is one of the poorest counties in the country? Have you been to Padstow during Easter weekend?
 

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