ha ha everton have won the cup

[1961_vintage]

the moyes reaction was more of a fingers up to the crowd after the stick he got last week after and during the wigan game. as for the fans celebration - last minute goal from jelavic contributed as much to it as beating city.fans and players alike respected the work he has put in and how much the goal meant to him. we would sooner have had a win against wigan any day of the week. and kenwrights tears - he was an actor remember. give me goodison on a good day than a great escape/ foam hands / tom hark crowd anyday.

Fair enough,but for me Moyes was on the pitch cause he hates City

He's still pissed at the touchline spat with Bob last year,or was it the year before.

I think it's more about him telling Kenners back in the day that they would sell Julian L to us over his dead body. Kenners went ahead and did the deal anyway and Gollum's view of his own personal integrity has been wounded ever since and that's why he reacts the way he does. It's important to him and whilst he can keep a lid on it most of the time he can't help himself when it's game on.

 

[shackattack]

i don't think moyes likes anyone in fairness. you can imagine him denting tins on purpose in aldi and moaning about the price of the shampoo in arabic writing ;-)

i would imagine him and mancini are hardly best buddies in fairness. from where i was sat yesterday it looked like moyes shook platt's hand but offered nothing to mancini. it rankles that yes he can get a result against city but in games like anfield away he offers zero. i support everton not moyes and his stubborness to sign a new contract could well rebound on him.

 

[meeesh]

i don't think moyes likes anyone in fairness. you can imagine him denting tins on purpose in aldi and moaning about the price of the shampoo in arabic writing ;-)

i would imagine him and mancini are hardly best buddies in fairness. from where i was sat yesterday it looked like moyes shook platt's hand but offered nothing to mancini. it rankles that yes he can get a result against city but in games like anfield away he offers zero. i support everton not moyes and his stubborness to sign a new contract could well rebound on him.

you could always have Mancini :))))))))))))))))))))))

 

[shackattack]

only if he takes that scarf off and gets a decent selection of cardigans like moyes ;-)

 

[Bill]

here he is. ok no sheikh mansour but not far behind glazier. everton could do so much if this guy helped out.

14. Lord Grantchester £1.2bn

Everton (Last year £1.2bn, 14th)

The grandson of the late Sir John Moores, founder of the Littlewoods empire who gave up the chairmanship to sit on the Everton board, Grantchester has an 8% stake in the Toffees and donated £100,000 towards the £800,000 cost of acquiring the Everton Collection of memorabilia.
The family wealth derives from the pools business, which started in 1923; it later branched out into mail order and retailing. The family sold some stores in 1998 and the pools side of the business in 2000; those proceeds and past dividends are worth £445m. But another windfall came in 2002 when the remaining department stores and mail order operation were sold for £750m. In all the family should be worth perhaps £1200m after-tax and charitable donations.

 

[shackattack]

here he is. ok no sheikh mansour but not far behind glazier. everton could do so much if this guy helped out.

14. Lord Grantchester £1.2bn

Everton (Last year £1.2bn, 14th)

The grandson of the late Sir John Moores, founder of the Littlewoods empire who gave up the chairmanship to sit on the Everton board, Grantchester has an 8% stake in the Toffees and donated £100,000 towards the £800,000 cost of acquiring the Everton Collection of memorabilia.
The family wealth derives from the pools business, which started in 1923; it later branched out into mail order and retailing. The family sold some stores in 1998 and the pools side of the business in 2000; those proceeds and past dividends are worth £445m. But another windfall came in 2002 when the remaining department stores and mail order operation were sold for £750m. In all the family should be worth perhaps £1200m after-tax and charitable donations.

the family cut their links with the club when they sold it to johnson.
bit of a mummy's boy and can't do anything without her approval ;-) she just gives him pocket money every friday to buy a bentley i guess !! . also the family wealth is not all his and most are not evertonians.

 

[jrb]

Question to any lurking Evertonians.

When was the last time Kenwright cried?

Was it before he tried to sell the club, or was it after the sale of the club fell through?

Just like the Glazers at United, Everton is now stuck with Kenwright. He isn't going anywhere. The cash cow is coming next season and he wants as much money as possible for putting up with years of abuse from the adoring Everton public.

Personally I hope he stays, bleeds your club dry, and makes sure no silverware ever graces Goddison Park again.(that's harsh jrb)

 

[Telfer78]

here he is. ok no sheikh mansour but not far behind glazier. everton could do so much if this guy helped out.

14. Lord Grantchester £1.2bn

Everton (Last year £1.2bn, 14th)

The grandson of the late Sir John Moores, founder of the Littlewoods empire who gave up the chairmanship to sit on the Everton board, Grantchester has an 8% stake in the Toffees and donated £100,000 towards the £800,000 cost of acquiring the Everton Collection of memorabilia.
The family wealth derives from the pools business, which started in 1923; it later branched out into mail order and retailing. The family sold some stores in 1998 and the pools side of the business in 2000; those proceeds and past dividends are worth £445m. But another windfall came in 2002 when the remaining department stores and mail order operation were sold for £750m. In all the family should be worth perhaps £1200m after-tax and charitable donations.

He will never invest while Kenwright is in charge it really is a closed shop in our boardroom corrupt with silent partners (that prick from M&S Mr Green)

 

[philiph20]

Sir John Moores was the Sheik Mansour/Roman Abramovich of his day and from Eccles and i believe a fan of the vermin originally so hardly a dyed in the wool scouser.

I personally have nothing against Everton or Scousers in general and only despise one club but the Evertonians and Golum in particular really loathe us. If they took a step back the average City fan is no different than the average Evertonian, we were averaging over 40000 prior to Sheik Mansour taking over and the overwhelming majority of those who watch our home games were watching Danny Mills, Samaras and Co fail to score a goal at home from NY Day to the end of the season. I'm sure if you look at things like income of the fans we are very similar, most fans you see interviewed outside the Etihad are working class Mancunians just as those interviewed outside Goodison are working class scousers, we are not former Chelsea fans it's the same lot of dare i say i fatalist negative dreamers in the main who always think it is going to go tits up. If Everton were going to be taken over the would be delighted as we were.

Personally if i was an Evertonian i would question the fact that even though they beat us every time at Goodison and deservedly so why do they roll over at Anfield and Old Trafford and why Moyes is such a coward when they play there.

 

[shackattack]

kenwright is a total crank and i agree re him bleeding the club dry. he says each year that the club is for sale yet no buyer ever appears. All of the club's assets have either been sold or mortgaged: this includes the stadium, which acts as security for a £30m loan; future season ticket sales for many years into the future, the method by which the loan is repaid; and the club's own ability to generate future commercial income as they have uniquely sold the rights to both their catering (Sodexo) and merchandising operations (Kitbag). This is why the club has very little money and is always skint; the areas in which they could have made some money, they were completely out of their depth, to the point they made losses. Rather than employ specialists in-house to get these areas profitable, they took the easy option of outsourcing, which got the immediate losses off the books (making them look good to the banks), but at the same time sacrificing any potential growth or profitability for many years to come.

With £45m of debt, no tangible assets to speak of and the smallest squad in the Premier League, Everton now have a negative balance sheet with £35m of liabilities – when Kenwright took control there was £20m of assets.