Haaland Record Tracker

Quite rightly the charity/community shield doesn’t count as a competitive fixture in most official records.

That’s why I think Messi’s 73 goal season should actually only be 67. I don’t think Supercups and the World Club Cup (which 4 out of 6 of the ‘competing’ confederations have never won) are actual serious competitions. These are just stat padding opportunities. The kind of things that are nice to win but you forget about a day later.
Indeed.

I think the age old rule applies here: “is this silverware worthy of me getting a tattoo to commemorate it”.

If not, it shouldn’t count for records.

And nobody—player or fan—is getting a tat to remember winning the Community Shield or Club World Cup.

Well, save the Dippers… which is another arrow in our argument’s quiver. ;-)
 
Quite rightly the charity/community shield doesn’t count as a competitive fixture in most official records.

That’s why I think Messi’s 73 goal season should actually only be 67. I don’t think Supercups and the World Club Cup (which 4 out of 6 of the ‘competing’ confederations have never won) are actual serious competitions. These are just stat padding opportunities. The kind of things that are nice to win but you forget about a day later.

Of course they all count, they are competitive matches ffs. Should we also not count goals against bottom 3 sides or chalk of champions league goals against lower ranked league teams?

If we win the champions league and Erling scores in the club world cup next year, you can bet I'll be counting them.
 
Of course they all count, they are competitive matches ffs. Should we also not count goals against bottom 3 sides or chalk of champions league goals against lower ranked league teams?

If we win the champions league and Erling scores in the club world cup next year, you can bet I'll be counting them.

But they don't all count do they... or do we include our Joan Gamper trophy in our list of competitive achievements as well? I think the vast majority of people would say no.

There is a spectrum here and all we're disagreeing on is where you draw the line.

I'm saying I draw the line based on which tournaments clubs base their seasonal cycle around. Those are the ones they are trying to win, everything else is just decoration. If the community shield really counted then the teams competing in it would bring back their players to train earlier so they had fully fit squads but they don't. They often play weakened teams and make 5 subs at half time.
 
Congratulations to Erling who seems to break a record every time he steps on the pitch! And at 22 there's every chance he'll get better still. We know how great he is now, but one thought that keeps coming back to me is what a great player Dixie Dean must have been as well.
Scored 60 league goals in his record season and followed that up with 44 league goals the next !
 
Congratulations to Erling who seems to break a record every time he steps on the pitch! And at 22 there's every chance he'll get better still. We know how great he is now, but one thought that keeps coming back to me is what a great player Dixie Dean must have been as well.
He definitely was for his day.

But I’ll go out on a limb and wager he’d struggle to score in a modern top flight football match.

Though, he’d love not getting hacked to death every match.
 
Of course they all count, they are competitive matches ffs. Should we also not count goals against bottom 3 sides or chalk of champions league goals against lower ranked league teams?

If we win the champions league and Erling scores in the club world cup next year, you can bet I'll be counting them.
The FA aren’t counting them for the official records so we aren’t, either.
 

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