Haaland Record Tracker

bluenova said:
I think the list might be "strikers", so Sterling, Mahrez etc., aren't on it.

Obviously that doesn't make much sense in Pep World.
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ok.. well it should be forwards as at least sterling played both positions... but thanks for the answer
 
bluenova said:
I think the list might be "strikers", so Sterling, Mahrez etc., aren't on it.

Obviously that doesn't make much sense in Pep World.
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Of course it makes sense. You want me to include every winger of the 21st century as well as every striker?

Mahrez, Sterling, Sané, Grealish, Palmer, Foden, SWP, Milner, Nasri, Silva, Navas, Johnson, Weiss, Petrov, Riera, Musampa, Beasley, Huckerby, Poveda, Brahim, Lopes etc. etc.

Why don’t I include every midfielder too because Yaya and KDB scored a few? It’s not just from Pep’s time. I never once claimed this was every player so I don’t know why people expect that to be what it is.

I’ll put Sterling in because he played quite a bit up front. Mahrez has barely ever played up front.
 
kun said:
Of course it makes sense. You want me to include every winger of the 21st century as well as every striker?

Mahrez, Sterling, Sané, Grealish, Palmer, Foden, SWP, Milner, Nasri, Silva, Navas, Johnson, Weiss, Petrov, Riera, Musampa, Beasley, Huckerby, Poveda, Brahim, Lopes etc. etc.

Why don’t I include every midfielder too because Yaya and KDB scored a few? It’s not just from Pep’s time. I never once claimed this was every player so I don’t know why people expect that to be what it is.

I’ll put Sterling in because he played quite a bit up front. Mahrez has barely ever played up front.
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I'm not being critical - and didn't realise it was a list you'd prepared.

I was just explaining why Sterling wasn't there - I could see that you'd only included strikers - and also how Pep has flipped things on the head - you'd have Sterling, De Bruyne, Mahrez all above Tevez, without any of them regularly playing as a recognised striker.
 
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bluenova said:
I'm not being critical - and didn't realise it was a list you'd prepared.

I was just explaining why Sterling wasn't there - I could see that you'd only included strikers - and also how Pep has flipped things on the head - you'd have Sterling, De Bruyne, Mahrez all above Tevez, without any of them regularly playing as a recognised striker.
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Fair enough yeah you’re right
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
One more to reach a tally last matched 92 years ago.

A possible 11 games remaining...

Top 5 All-time - Competitive Goals in a Single Season for an English top flight team
63 - Dixie Dean - 1927/28
50 - Vic Watson - 1929/30
50 - Pongo Waring - 1930/31
49 - Erling Haaland - 2022/23 & Clive Allen - 1986/87
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Just to put the first three of the above in perspective and without wanting to belittle the achievements of the players involved (Dixie Dean's in particular is an amazing feat whatever the circumstances), there was a change in the offside law in 1925. It meant that an attacking player was offside if only two opposing players, rather than the previous three, were nearer to the goal.

This resulted in a degree of chaos among most defences and all kinds of scoring records were set in the decade or slightly more that followed as teams tried to adapt to the new rules. For instance, it's far from a coincidence that City's record goal haul in the league of 108 in a 42-game season was set in 1926/27 and Tommy Johnson's current club record of 38 league goals in a season dates from 1928/29.

By the immediate pre-War seasons, things were settling down and defences had adjusted. Thus, every occasion on which a top-flight player has scored 50 goals or more in a season in all competitions fell within that period of 1925 to 1935. So did every instance bar one of a top-flight striker scoring 40 league goals in a campaign (Jimmy Greaves notching 41 for Chelsea in 1960/61 is the exception).

Haaland already looks certain to overhaul Clive Allen's post-War record and indeed to move second to Dixie Dean in the all-time list. If he can score a goal each game in the league between now and the end of the campaign, he'll have 40 in the league alone. That we're talking about him in this context shows just how phenomenal he's actually been. IMO, he deserves even wider appreciation.
 
petrusha said:
Just to put the first three of the above in perspective and without wanting to belittle the achievements of the players involved (Dixie Dean's in particular is an amazing feat whatever the circumstances), there was a change in the offside law in 1925. It meant that an attacking player was offside if only two opposing players, rather than the previous three, were nearer to the goal.

This resulted in a degree of chaos among most defences and all kinds of scoring records were set in the decade or slightly more that followed as teams tried to adapt to the new rules. For instance, it's far from a coincidence that City's record goal haul in the league of 108 in a 42-game season was set in 1926/27 and Tommy Johnson's current club record of 38 league goals in a season dates from 1928/29.

By the immediate pre-War seasons, things were settling down and defences had adjusted. Thus, every occasion on which a top-flight player has scored 50 goals or more in a season in all competitions fell within that period of 1925 to 1935. So did every instance bar one of a top-flight striker scoring 40 league goals in a campaign (Jimmy Greaves notching 41 for Chelsea in 1960/61 is the exception).

Haaland already looks certain to overhaul Clive Allen's post-War record and indeed to move second to Dixie Dean in the all-time list. If he can score a goal each game in the league between now and the end of the campaign, he'll have 40 in the league alone. That we're talking about him in this context shows just how phenomenal he's actually been. IMO, he deserves even wider appreciation.
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Really good context and to evidence that point further, though I think it’s been said on here before… the late 20s saw average goals per game at around 3.8. You have to go back to Victorian Britain to see goals per game ratios anything like that.

The last decade saw goals per game at 2.5-2.8, so Haaland is hitting these numbers during a time with a third fewer overall goals. He is, however, doing it in a team that regularly scores circa 100 goals a season which is definitely helping his numbers.

He is an anomalous player in an anomalous team, giving him a double boost to reach numbers that are 30%+ higher than any we’ve come to expect in post-war English football.
 
Gigant said:


Be patient ,we can wait
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That’s such a bunch of shit. Why are Liverpool freaks so fucking weird? They always have to find an obscure way to be the best at something.

Was it those freaks claiming that’d win the league if only long range shots counted?
 
kun said:
How he compares to our other 21st century strikers. He's overtaken Anelka already.

Sergio Agüero: 390 (260)
Raheem Sterling: 339 (131)
Shaun Goater: 212 (103)
Gabriel Jesus: 236 (95)
Carlos Tevez: 148 (73)
Edin Džeko: 189 (72)
Erling Haaland: 43 (49)
Nicolas Anelka: 103 (45)
Paulo Wanchope: 75 (29)
Robbie Fowler: 92 (28)
Álvaro Negredo: 49 (23)
Darius Vassell: 124 (22)
Kelechi Iheanacho: 64 (21)
Emmanuel Adebayor: 45 (19)
Robinho: 53 (16)
Craig Bellamy: 51 (15)
Antoine Sibierski: 107 (15)
Julián Álvarez: 41 (14)
Jon Macken: 59 (12)
Georgios Samaras: 62 (12)
Stevan Jovetić: 44 (11)
Andy Cole: 23 (10)
Wilfried Bony: 46 (10)
Felipe Caicedo: 35 (8)
Benjani Mwaruwari: 31 (7)
Jô: 42 (6)
Rolando Bianchi: 24 (5)
George Weah: 11 (4)
Roque Santa Cruz: 24 (4)
Bernardo Corradi: 29 (3)
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Why Mario Balotelli is not in this list?

Why not always him??
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
Pretty sure I'm right in saying there is now only one man in the entire history of top flight English football that has scored more competitive goals in a season than Erling Haaland.

That man being Dixie Dean.
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Dixie Dean scored 63 in all competitions in 1927/28.

Haaland is on 50 with 9 games left to play this season (10 if we reach the CL final)

I doubt anyone thought that record would ever be broken but there is a very real possibility he could do it.
 
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