Hair discrimination

[Rory Bluelow]

We have to be very careful putting our values onto other cultures (Countries) because if those cultures (Countries) don't comply it doesn't make them immediately wrong it only makes them wrong from our point of view.

There's someone sat on a small hill in Kabul carrying a Kalashnikov absolutely stunned that in some parts of the world you can publicly look at a womans face, he wants to tell other cultures (Countries) what to do and how to think or label them as something they may or may not be.

I agree with that and my perception of Japan is naturally centred on my own cultural perspective. I would add that Japan is a rich and highly educated nation, definitely not without its charms - and charming people - but it will not accept dilution of its own perceived racial superiority by mere foreigners (from anywhere) a concept baked into its social, political and legal systems. They baulk at the thought of immigration, reject diversity, refuse to accept refugees, there are no mosques for example and their unparalleled cruelty in WW2 especially in China illustrated their utter contempt for others. They have a ageing population of 120m but prefer to focus on robotics and machines to support them, rather than human beings from other places. As you may guess I have some personal experience here. By the way, I suspect the person sat on the hill in Kabul just wants other cultures to fuck off and leave them alone. I can understand that.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

I agree with that and my perception of Japan is naturally centred on my own cultural perspective. I would add that Japan is a rich and highly educated nation, definitely not without its charms - and charming people - but it will not accept dilution of its own perceived racial superiority by mere foreigners (from anywhere) a concept baked into its social, political and legal systems. They baulk at the thought of immigration, reject diversity, refuse to accept refugees, there are no mosques for example and their unparalleled cruelty in WW2 especially in China illustrated their utter contempt for others. They have a ageing population of 120m but prefer to focus on robotics and machines to support them, rather than human beings from other places. As you may guess I have some personal experience here. By the way, I suspect the person sat on the hill in Kabul just wants other cultures to fuck off and leave them alone. I can understand that.

Other nations have done worse to continents for centuries but I don't see anyone holding it over their heads.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Afro hair: School bans probably illegal, says watchdog

Children should be allowed to wear cornrows and braids, new human rights guidance says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Schools have always had stupid hair rules. We werent allowed any unnatural colours or hair shorter than a #2. Its not racist at all but see no reason why any rules should exist. Especially when the teachers regularly look more ridiculous.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Other nations have done worse to continents for centuries but I don't see anyone holding it over their heads.

I really can’t think of any recent parallels of military forces burying alive hundreds of thousands of civilians. Germany created a core of Nazi fanatics that seized control of the State and then went on and murdered people on an industrial scale. They carry the shame and contrition 80 years later, Japan barely feel they did anything wrong at all.

 

[flook]

More like forced "conformism" rather than Racism.

if the issue is with "afro" hair or "caribbean" hair, then isn't it just racism by another name?

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Hair has always been a thing to control in schools, afro hair isn't either different or a special case. Sent home for your hair isn't a thing that happens to people only with afros.

Correct.

If some white boy turned up to the school I work at with a haircut like Hull FC’s Brad Fash, he’d be told that it wasn’t a suitable haircut within the school rules and he’d have to get it cut to a within the suitability rules.

Just like the white girls do when they turn up with bright pink/blue/green or multicoloured dyed hair.

If the rules are ‘not too short, not too long, not too big, not too bright’ that just applies to everyone, not just everyone apart from black people because anti-black racism is in the news a lot.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

We have to be very careful putting our values onto other cultures (Countries) because if those cultures (Countries) don't comply it doesn't make them immediately wrong it only makes them wrong from our point of view.

There's someone sat on a small hill in Kabul carrying a Kalashnikov absolutely stunned that in some parts of the world you can publicly look at a womans face, he wants to tell other cultures (Countries) what to do and how to think or label them as something they may or may not be.

The key word in all of that being 'he.'

'He' being the person who is using his kalashnikov to impose his views on the rest of his population. Sorry mate, I'll happily judge the **** according to my values. He's a piece of shit and the world would be better off without him and people with values like his.

Obviously that doesn't mean that I think the best course of action is to go in there with an army and impose our values on them. But I'm more than happy for us to judge people like that and decide we want to have nothing to do with them.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Correct.

If some white boy turned up to the school I work at with a haircut like Hull FC’s Brad Fash, he’d be told that it wasn’t a suitable haircut within the school rules and he’d have to get it cut to a within the suitability rules.

Just like the white girls do when they turn up with bright pink/blue/green or multicoloured dyed hair.

If the rules are ‘not too short, not too long, not too big, not too bright’ that just applies to everyone, not just everyone apart from black people because anti-black racism is in the news a lot.

But that's not what's going on here. Black people aren't showing up to school with their hair dyed pink or with ridiculous hairstyles, and if they do and then cry racism, they'll get a short shrift from other black people. The issue is when they turn up to school with their hair in its natural state and are told that it doesn't meet the dress code of the school because 'neatness' is determined according to white people's hair, and often by white people. You're putting the burden on black students to actually put a lot of effort into making sure their hair meets the standards of 'neatness' determined by the school, often at considerable time expense. A quick google suggests that it takes 4-10 hours to get your hair braided. Compare that to a white girl who can brush her hair and put it in a ponytail in 30 seconds. And even after all that effort, you might turn up at school and be told that the braids are too thick or in some sort of other 'exotic' or 'attention-grabbing' style that is unacceptable according to the whims of some teacher.

Anyway, here's a video on the issue from South Africa.



Here's another one from America:



You could argue that extensions could be blanket banned, but the longer the video goes on, the more you hear from other students who have had to deal with issues related to natural hair or common black hairstyles.

 

[MCFCTrick]

Japan is one of the most openly racist Countries in the World. Doesn’t attempt to hide it, doesn’t care what the world thinks and looks down on every other race/nationality. Hidden behind a mask of politeness and etiquette.

All others are seen as 'Gaijin' ... literally translates as 'beneath'.

It's still the best country I have ever been to though.

And yes, hair bullying is real. But nothing new. We had a teacher who called any of us lads with long or longish hair (it was the 70's) 'Shemales' to attempt to bully us.
As an apprentice engineer, I was told I must wear a hair net near machinery, though women with long hair operating said machines weren't made to. Nothing to do with H&S (though it did make sense really) but merely to try and humiliate me .... Luckily I didn't give a flying one.

 

[feelymcfeel]

I'm a bloke, 35, work in a professional client facing capacity, have hair down to my arse. I've not noticed anything weird or discriminatory.