Harry Kane

Petetheblu said:
I doubt there is a striker out there good enough to beat 2-3 close organised defenders and then slot it in to the net...

It's unique anywhere else, but at City that's the norm.

I'd love haaland or Kane but even with their abilities they'd struggle to get the space to do their stuff. I doubt anyone coming in as a central striker could do much against a defence thats well organised with decent defenders and a total lack of movement from our second three

If Haaland or Kane came it'll be a waste of good money while our Midfield 3 stand there making 5 yard side passes to each other. They won't stand a chance and will concede the ball with three defenders and midfielders closely marking them, theyd end up as a bit part player like Kun did, sadly.

We either start creating more space with intelligent movement from our midfielders with early and late runs in to the box and create some havoc, taking defenders away or grabbing goal or a penalty or we forget about Haaland/Kane and we buy the next Mess/Salah/Mahrez who can deal with the compact defence and our lack of midfield creativity.

We need some change, not a lot, otherwise I think we should forget about Haaland or Kane.

To many players are far to positional minded recently and would make defending our striker (who ever he his) to easy.
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We put cross after cross on and some of them are very good. Put an actual centre forward there who more than 5 foot and you’ll get headed goals as Kane demonstrated on Saturday
 
Craig said:
We put cross after cross on and some of them are very good. Put an actual centre forward there who more than 5 foot and you’ll get headed goals as Kane demonstrated on Saturday
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I thought our crosses were average and easy to defend. It is frustrating to a 5'6" go up against a 6 footer.

But Rodri could do that, with an occasional run into the box.
 
There's no way in hell Kane's coming to City now...... that was his Champion's League final. Give the man credit where it's due. He was brilliant, he rose to the occasion as few players could have.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
HA - Only on BM - couldn't get the ball off him, held the ball like Velcro, scored 2 goals, made our "world class" defenders look like Dunney and Symons - but NO, we don't want him!
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You're right but only when you don't apply context.

I hardly need to explain it to you surely?
 
Petetheblu said:
I doubt there is a striker out there good enough to beat 2-3 close organised defenders and then slot it in to the net...

It's unique anywhere else, but at City that's the norm.

I'd love haaland or Kane but even with their abilities they'd struggle to get the space to do their stuff. I doubt anyone coming in as a central striker could do much against a defence thats well organised with decent defenders and a total lack of movement from our second three

If Haaland or Kane came it'll be a waste of good money while our Midfield 3 stand there making 5 yard side passes to each other. They won't stand a chance and will concede the ball with three defenders and midfielders closely marking them, theyd end up as a bit part player, sadly.

We either start creating more space with intelligent movement from our midfielders with early and late runs in to the box and create some havoc, taking defenders away or grabbing goal or a penalty or we forget about Haaland/Kane and we buy the next Mess/Salah/Mahrez who can deal with the compact defence and our lack of midfield creativity.

We need some change, not a lot, otherwise I think we should forget about Haaland or Kane.

To many players are far to positional minded recently and would make defending our striker (who ever he his) to easy.
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I think having a big striker would create the space you are looking for in the box. If we had haaland he demands the attention of two defenders and is in the back of their minds even if they aren't on him specifically. This would open up space for all of our other players to get some more shots.
 
Sunset said:
I think having a big striker would create the space you are looking for in the box. If we had haaland he demands the attention of two defenders and is in the back of their minds even if they aren't on him specifically. This would open up space for all of our other players to get some more shots.
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But I do agree, Pep's one shortcoming is not emphasizing the counter attack when available. Our players have no idea how to cut throat when the opportunity arises the same way liverpool does. This is the key to winning champions league and why I think we will never be favorites in that comp. We can control a game all day long. Doesn't matter if you aren't used to punishing your opponents the second they slip up.

When our opponents slip up we see it as a wonderful opportunity to slow down and set our formation back up lmao. Im being dramatic but... there's some truth to it.
 
Sunset said:
But I do agree, Pep's one shortcoming is not emphasizing the counter attack when available. Our players have no idea how to cut throat when the opportunity arises the same way liverpool does. This is the key to winning champions league and why I think we will never be favorites in that comp. We can control a game all day long. Doesn't matter if you aren't used to punishing your opponents the second they slip up.

When our opponents slip up we see it as a wonderful opportunity to slow down and set our formation back up lmao. Im being dramatic but... there's some truth to it.
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Liverpool don't play the same transitions as us, so they always have more protection to losing the ball and being countered back. When we used to have Sane and Sterling we did this but then Pep's tried to mitigate against what knocked us out of the CL repeatedly by protecting against it. Problem is if the players fuck up it'll still happen because it's not really a Plan B, just a sticking plaster on Plan A.
 
Sunset said:
But I do agree, Pep's one shortcoming is not emphasizing the counter attack when available. Our players have no idea how to cut throat when the opportunity arises the same way liverpool does. This is the key to winning champions league and why I think we will never be favorites in that comp. We can control a game all day long. Doesn't matter if you aren't used to punishing your opponents the second they slip up.

When our opponents slip up we see it as a wonderful opportunity to slow down and set our formation back up lmao. Im being dramatic but... there's some truth to it.
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Our laboured counter attacks are because of Peps tactics. He wants complete control of the football. We’ve seen it so many times this season when the counter attack is on, only for the player on the ball to slow down and pass it back. It lets everyone get back in to position and the machine starts again.
 
Sunset said:
But I do agree, Pep's one shortcoming is not emphasizing the counter attack when available. Our players have no idea how to cut throat when the opportunity arises the same way liverpool does. This is the key to winning champions league and why I think we will never be favorites in that comp. We can control a game all day long. Doesn't matter if you aren't used to punishing your opponents the second they slip up.

When our opponents slip up we see it as a wonderful opportunity to slow down and set our formation back up lmao. Im being dramatic but... there's some truth to it.
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We have not had that ruthless ability on the counter since Sane left/got injured. We play now a very much percentage based game which is hugely successful most of the time.
When things go wrong like on Saturday or more usually on big European nights we are made look average. Many people put such defeats down to selection inadequacies on behalf of the manager, infamous overthinking, I tend to view it as a perennial deficiency in the Pep footballing orthodoxy.
Now the plus side is the amazing consistency on a day to day basis which delivers lots of domestic silverware. Can't have your cake and eat it I suppose. But who knows if Pep stays another 3 or 4 years maybe he will evolve in a new direction?
 
Ghost of 76 said:
Actually, it will surprise you to learn that 47% of London is 'green space'!
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Some decades ago I was writing a dissertation on regional economic variations and I included a book in the bibliography "Paris and the French Desert' posing the idea that France was Paris and Paris was France and the rest could fuck off. I think the same notion has visited the UK. London is the UK and the UK is London. Best public transport, biggest splodges of green space, and so on! And the rest can fuck off!
 


I’m still amazed at how little we seemed to have a game plan against him and dropping deep. Either that or we just aborted it completely.
 
Sunset said:
I think having a big striker would create the space you are looking for in the box. If we had haaland he demands the attention of two defenders and is in the back of their minds even if they aren't on him specifically. This would open up space for all of our other players to get some more shots.
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A good 'big un' generally beats a good 'little un'
 
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