Harry Kane

Kane’s changed the way he plays, he drops deep, presses and defends now. He brings other players into the game it’s why he’s top of the goals and assists charts. Probably why Pep likes him
I get this. Impressive in his link up play and assists. I wasn't questioning his skill or ability. The only question I was raising is the absolute discipline required to play in a Pep system. Is he used to playing in a set way or does do other players currently play to suit him?
I have no doubt he has the capacity to be a great fit and would take him in a heart beat but until he is in our squad and under Pep, we can't be sure he has that discipline to be a cog in a well oiled machine instead of a diamond in the rough.
 
I get this. Impressive in his link up play and assists. I wasn't questioning his skill or ability. The only question I was raising is the absolute discipline required to play in a Pep system. Is he used to playing in a set way or does do other players currently play to suit him?
I have no doubt he has the capacity to be a great fit and would take him in a heart beat but until he is in our squad and under Pep, we can't be sure he has that discipline to be a cog in a well oiled machine instead of a diamond in the rough.

Possibly to a lesser extent but he had his best goalscoring years under Poch who has a similar management style/footballing vision
 
I’m a bit confused. City will need to stump up £100m for Kane (at least). Dortmund would snatch our hands off for £80-£90m for Haaland.

in my opinion Haaland is already better than Kane, based on league goals ratio and the champions league ridiculousness he’s posting.

also i’ve seen him mow down Father Ruben and Upamaceno, just absolutely walked over them.

Haaland is much younger, cheaper, probably accepts lower wages, supports City, already has a very high international profile marketing wise and would end his career a city legend.

Kane will never be a city legend - he’ll always be a spurs boy. just like van persie to United it was a short term fix but really it just looked weird in the United shirt after what he did at Arsenal.

City buy young promising players and turn them into superstars, defining us by their careers. That wont happen to Kane. I just dont get how its a choice, if it is a choice

I definitely think it is a big mistake, buying (or going for) Kane over Haaland.

But not signing either is probably a big mistake too. The club will know how they want to ay this. They will also be patient, I truly think that.

Levy and Watzke can both play hard, knowing we need a striker, one big enough to replace sergio, and have the money. The club can play them off each other, and have the balls to he patient knowing not many other clubs can afford them, nor possibly even attract them at this point.


If nothing changes at bracelona and we somehow manage to sign messi early on, that patience will become increasingly more comfortable.
 
They would have always expected to climb into top 4. Do you think liverpool and chelsea go planning their seasons in april when they are in 5th or 6th? Dortmund's stance was clear regardless, and hasn't changed. With or without champions league, they wouldn't sell, (unless a sizeable offee comes). With or without champions league, Haaland's agent would push for a move, if he was interested in the move, to a club of his choice. That club would then haggle with Dortmund and he would play his part.
That remains the case, nobody has hinted anything otherwise.

I agree Kane, currently, seems to be a more likely option. But that is purely because of one interview he gave (ironically supposedly 6 weeks ago, so around the same time confidence of landing Haaland was at its peak), and the implied perception of that. Nothing at all has changed on the Haaland side to say it has become less likely though.
Except that they weren't
Tou can't compare them though. For a start, none were signed for 120m+. It is a huge amount of money. Almost double the record we have paid for any player. I They stayed 10 years, because they were signed at an age they Could, he can't, he is being signed at an age when it is his last big move. Which is totally fine, but not at over 100m.

People say why do you care about resale value. I bloody don't. The club clearly damn well do, that is obvious, and I'm just pointing out this doesn't for with their pattern or how they conduct transfers.

If they sign someone like haaland, mbappe, etc, they are already breaking one pattern, the fact the would pay big big money and what it takes for a signing of that calibre. But it would be a protected investment because of their age and profile, it would have longterm value.

If they sign kane, they are breaking two patterns. Big big money transfer they have typically stayed away from, And, no long term value. They have never done both. That is why I struggle to see this happening.

So far, we have been linked with Haaland, Watzke has said he's not selling, and named a price. Now we have been linked with Kane. Levy is yet to say he isn't selling and to name a price. When that happens, we will be where we were. Then it'll be either back to Haaland, perhaps maybe linked with Mbappe in his last year, till Kalifi says he's not selling and names a price, then maybe linked with frlix or someone else, who knows. Then back to Kane, Haaland, and so on. Round and round till it lands somewhere before next season starts. I honestly doubt a transfer this big for a player of that big a profile happens quickly and quietly behind the scenes like most are assuming has already happened just because Kane said some stuff to Neville.

(Hopefully, we sign messi quietly in the meantime while the above circle-tug is playing out)
Must have missed it,what's the price Watzke's set for Erling?
Oh,we wanted Kane last summer btw,and he wanted to leave,just that it didn't go public like this time,with Levy/Jose convincing him to give them another year,so this isn't a knee jerk reaction,it's been in the works for an year now.Txixi and co aren't fools. I get the fact that others have different ideas and are thrilled with the idea of Haaland/Messi etc and the bias is clouding judgement with Kane feeling like a bit of a comedown for many but Kane is clearly the one Pep's always wanted and still wants
 
My exact same thinking (if the speculated numbers are about right) even if Haaland price tag is100m.
Adding to that the resale values which has no comparison. I am not sure if we get Haaland he will be in city until he hang his boots BUT just imagine him with us for the next 4-5 years.

The speculation is not right though. No way Haaland goes for anything less than 120m. No way Kane goes for anything less than 120m.

It is just case of which one is easier to get, wants it more (or wants it at all), and will fit in better short term or longer term. And what the value of such a big investment is both immediately and long term. The club will balannce those out and decide what is worth what to them.

And I'll trust them either way and be happy with either.
 
Kane is at his peak right now, this season. That means there is only one direction he'd be travelling and that's down.

Haarland on the other hand is on a par with Kane and does have 7+ years to get even better.

If it's between the two, its a no-brainer... Haarland.

As soon as Kane signed that 6yr deal was the day when he shot himself in the foot, if he wanted to pimp himself out to a club with realistic chances of silverware at the top level it was then.

I dont think he's going anywhere...
But will Raiola let Haarland stay at one club for more than 3 years. He's always looking for more ways to earn money, and that way is selling on his stars for big agent fees
 
If its Kane we sign, then its a no brainer that Delap should come in as his understudy.
Why? What about Jesus or Torres, both those would be in front of Delap.

IF we do sign a top striker, it would not surprise me to see Delap go on loan for a season.
 
Why? What about Jesus or Torres, both those would be in front of Delap.

IF we do sign a top striker, it would not surprise me to see Delap go on loan for a season.

I wasnt forgetting about either jesus or torres. Just reckon delap could actually be our very own haaland

He has had a fantastic season, has the build to bully defenders and isnt exactly small at 6ft
 
Except that they weren't

Must have missed it,what's the price Watzke's set for Erling?
Oh,we wanted Kane last summer btw,and he wanted to leave,just that it didn't go public like this time,with Levy/Jose convincing him to give them another year,so this isn't a knee jerk reaction,it's been in the works for an year now.Txixi and co aren't fools. I get the fact that others have different ideas and are thrilled with the idea of Haaland/Messi etc and the bias is clouding judgement with Kane feeling like a bit of a comedown for many but Kane is clearly the one Pep's always wanted and still wants

They will have expected to finish in the top4. A big club like that in a league they are superior than most others will have expected it despite their blip. They appointed a manager for next season on that basis, they had an interim manager on that basis, and they had a stance on Haaland which wouldn't shift.

the figure of €150m was widely advised by Dortmund sources, some attributed to their own board. Reportedly less if up front.

The rest I entirely agree with btw, entirely valid and perfectly believable and logical.
 

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