Harry Kane

Calv_from_the_frog said:
1. Y'see, that where you f*cked up with FFP. Its doesn't stop well fiunded clubs from going under, but it does prevent them being able to pay silly fees for players like the one you want.
2. Yes, you're probably right. Then again, Jack is 3 years younger and we can probably do without a CF if push comes to shove (not that we'd want to, I agree).
3. No idea, you'd know better than me, but I'd be astounded if - with City having felt the pinch and lost 120m - Spurs hadn't lost an awful lot more (no matter how well structured your debt is).
4. True enough. Striking is not sustainable for him or you.
5. Next year he'll be 29. I'd say you'd get 60-70m tops. We can cope with the 60m depreciation given CL participation & other prize money. You probably can't (as much).
6. Fact is that there's a glut of strikers at the moment (as proven by our focus on Kane). You'd be able to get 2 or 3 signings tops with the Kane money.
7. As he's 'one of your own' isn't any money a profit ?
8. You'll get 120m max. No more. Probably no less.

The fact is that you're doing a bit of a 'Messi' with Kane. 120m would be fantastic money (especially in the current climate) but you've had a look at ONE other transfer and figured that he's worth more than that.

Barca paid the price by having to get rid of pretty much half their team to keep Messi, you'll have a player who'll get you no nearer to winning stuff on still massive wages, pissed off at having not won 'owt, and rapidly depreciating in value.

We walked away from Koulibaly. We walked away from Kounde. We bought Dias (leaving Koulibaly & Kounde frustrated at their current clubs and looking for moves still).

It hurts having your players go on strike to leave. I remember when Tevez did it. But you're left having to make the best out of a bad situation, and this - unfortunately - is the best you're gonna get.
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Also, regarding naming rights, you could always name it The Harry Kane Memorial Stadium.... (I'm kidding, I'm kidding)...
 
Calv_from_the_frog said:
1. Y'see, that where you f*cked up with FFP. Its doesn't stop well fiunded clubs from going under, but it does prevent them being able to pay silly fees for players like the one you want.
2. Yes, you're probably right. Then again, Jack is 3 years younger and we can probably do without a CF if push comes to shove (not that we'd want to, I agree).
3. No idea, you'd know better than me, but I'd be astounded if - with City having felt the pinch and lost 120m - Spurs hadn't lost an awful lot more (no matter how well structured your debt is).
4. True enough. Striking is not sustainable for him or you.
5. Next year he'll be 29. I'd say you'd get 60-70m tops. We can cope with the 60m depreciation given CL participation & other prize money. You probably can't (as much).
6. Fact is that there's a glut of strikers at the moment (as proven by our focus on Kane). You'd be able to get 2 or 3 signings tops with the Kane money.
7. As he's 'one of your own' isn't any money a profit ?
8. You'll get 120m max. No more. Probably no less.

The fact is that you're doing a bit of a 'Messi' with Kane. 120m would be fantastic money (especially in the current climate) but you've had a look at ONE other transfer and figured that he's worth more than that.

Barca paid the price by having to get rid of pretty much half their team to keep Messi, you'll have a player who'll get you no nearer to winning stuff on still massive wages, pissed off at having not won 'owt, and rapidly depreciating in value.

We walked away from Koulibaly. We walked away from Kounde. We bought Dias (leaving Koulibaly & Kounde frustrated at their current clubs and looking for moves still).

It hurts having your players go on strike to leave. I remember when Tevez did it. But you're left having to make the best out of a bad situation, and this - unfortunately - is the best you're gonna get.
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In short, you are saying you can't afford him. I agree. The deal will collapse.
 
grunge said:
Even with amortisation there's no real chance without selling a ton of players. when you think we're already doing it for all the other players we have bought in on the books.

And that's assuming the selling team is willing to take payments. else the money has to come from somewhere to be amortised.
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Where the money comes from doesn't matter for FFP, apart from any interest payments due. The key is the amortisation. New contracts for the likes of Stones and Ederson reduce their costs each year and not only do we get whatever the boom profit is on Angelino, we also lose his amortised cost from when we bought him back.
It's all going to be complicated and impossible to work out without seeing everything on the books, but I'm confident that if City planned to buy players, they knew how they could afford them. That might involve some further sales, but that's probably as much to do with squad size as anything else.
 
InLevyITrust said:
He made Modric and Berbatov stay an extra yeah and made Real pay a world record fee.
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You're embarrassing. Selling is selling. Taking the money is taking the money. Being unable to keep your best players is being unable to keep your best players. The fact that your club vice captain, your talisman, the homegrown golden boy, wants out, should have you burning Levy effigies. Instead you come on an opposition supporter's forum, not just any opposition supporters either but the fucking champions, and peddle this drivel with that username.

Part of me thinks you're an Arsenal fan, no sane grown up adult Spurs fan would behave as embarrassingly as you currently are.
 
InLevyITrust said:
He made Modric and Berbatov stay an extra yeah and made Real pay a world record fee.
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Both foreign players who were only loved by your own fans… Kane is the nations captain and Levy runs the risk of not only pissing his player off but causing issues for England too. As someone above has mentioned, Kane under Pep will undoubtedly improve, that in turn benefits the country for the World Cup as well as City. Your clubs need for the money is greater than ours for Kane.
 
eastmanc said:
And from selling players. We’ve still got the money from Leroy and from a shit load of Academy players like Jack Harrison. We must have the best part of a 100 million plus saved up.
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The academy earns us lots of money and they go on to have careers , i know people crave for them to make the first team but that is not really the point of the academy , only rare special ones like phil will make it
 
I just wish the rags would come in with £150m to gazump us. We could then get someone as a stop gap and then enter the cesspit that the Haaland transfer will become next season. Really don't want Kane no logical reason just my instinct telling me it's not right. If you are looking at paying the kind of money that Spuds are going to want I think everybody should be buzzing, I am finding it hard to get overly excited about this possible transfer, if on the over hand we were getting Haaland I think the excitement levels would go through the roof. Anyway this is just my thoughts on my little City bidding on the best striker in the country ( how times have changed). I think Kane will end up here and when he hits 40 goals in his first season I'm sure I will warm to him.
 
kaz7 said:
The academy earns us lots of money and they go on to have careers , i know people crave for them to make the first team but that is not really the point of the academy , only rare special ones like phil will make it
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Add also the Jadon Sancho money to prize money and TV earnings and that is quite a big chunk of cash we have burning a hole in our pocket.
 
InLevyITrust said:
He made Modric and Berbatov stay an extra yeah and made Real pay a world record fee.
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M8 your club has gone from CL contenders with a very good team, to what you are now.

Levy has ruined the good fortune and opportunity to be top flight. In fact its getting worse even now.

How can you guys be such suckers to let your owner get away with that? At least Newcastle fans have some balls and call out their owner but you lot, you seem like you'll accept anything.
 
Academica said:
I just wish the rags would come in with £150m to gazump us. We could then get someone as a stop gap and then enter the cesspit that the Haaland transfer will become next season. Really don't want Kane no logical reason just my instinct telling me it's not right. If you are looking at paying the kind of money that Spuds are going to want I think everybody should be buzzing, I am finding it hard to get overly excited about this possible transfer, if on the over hand we were getting Haaland I think the excitement levels would go through the roof. Anyway this is just my thoughts on my little City bidding on the best striker in the country ( how times have changed). I think Kane will end up here and when he hits 40 goals in his first season I'm sure I will warm to him.
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Doesn’t matter if we want him or not Pep wants him and that’s what matters

I want him more for the piss boiling but he is a great player when fit
 
JPBB said:
In short, you are saying you can't afford him. I agree. The deal will collapse.
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I'm saying that the deal will collapse (I said that earlier today), but more to the old financial lesson that something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Now we're willing to pay about 120m (I would estimate), next season the maximum that anyone would spend on a 29 year old is 60-70m as I say.

I don't see anyone else beating down the door for Kane other than us, and he certainly isn't worth 120m to you given your aspirations.

It's a dangerous game of chicken that Levy is playing here, because outside of Kane you don't really have any sellable assets capable of funding regeneration, you're not in the Champions League, you're unlikely to finish in the Top 4, and another crowdless / limited crowd season will be the 'coup de grace' for you financially.
 
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