Hart must play in the final

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GaudinoMotors said:
Your tolerance, acceptance and adherence to your view is admirable Rolee; but when I take my not inexpensive seat at Wembley, after the logistics and expense of the round trip, and that comic tumbler is announced in goal, mine and a lot of other hearts will sink.
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I think it's a harder pill to swallow if you've paid a lot of money to travel down there. Getting on a coach at 9:30am and maybe not getting home again till after midnight, as was the case at the Wigan final. If he's going to put him in goal after his performance yesterday then it's going to be very disappointing
 
Caballero seems totally incapable of altering his momentum. whichever way his body weight is going is the way he dives regardless of where the ball is heading.
He seems to just commit himself and dive away from the ball sometimes. Any saves he does make are just down to luck/law of averages that sometimes the ball will hit him....which is not ideal for a premier League goalkeeper....
 
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Rolee said:
It's not purely on that basis though is it? It's the manager's policy based on what he feels is best practice.

Let me ask this, the likelihood is Caballero is gone this summer, how do we attract another keeper to the club if he's not at least guaranteed cup games to try to impress?
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Caballero HAS been guaranteed cup games to try and impress. It's up to him to impress from thereon in and he hasn't. He's making too many mistakes and form has to count for something in the end. I agree it's difficult when you can't get a steady run of games and it's clearly not for everyone. I wouldn't blame anyone at the club for his recruitment as he arrived with a decent reputation but he hasn't taken to the role very well.

If it were up to me, I'd rather offer a keeper a set run of games across all competitions rather than impose a rigid cup keeper system. It leaves us in this awkward situation every time we reach a cup final where we're still not convinced by the keeper's credentials but still feel the need to play him. I'd sooner give them the odd league game instead, or even a run out in the champions league if we have any dead rubber games.
 
You can't guarantee anyone games. Surely it should be a reward for good performances
 
Rolee said:
I never said wanting to play the best team is stupid.

I said a thread calling for something that you know too well is not going to happen is stupid.
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Not certain Peller won't change his mind on this one. His performance yesterday was fairly crap by any analysis and the manager will have to give serious consideration to dropping him. In the same manner if Joe was playing really badly his position should be in jeapordy. Just because he is in pole position should not mean that he plays automatically if, as there is, a serious question mark about his form. Also it represents our only realistic chance of silverware and should he play Willy and he fucks up, which imo is quite likely, the managers legacy will become increasingly tarnished.
 
Rolee said:
It's not purely on that basis though is it? It's the manager's policy based on what he feels is best practice.

Let me ask this, the likelihood is Caballero is gone this summer, how do we attract another keeper to the club if he's not at least guaranteed cup games to try to impress?
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We get the best back up we can and when they get a chance as Willy did yesterday we would expect them to lay down a marker not put in a piss poor performance. It's not as if the guy hasn't got his gloves dirty this season.
 
bobmcfc said:
You can't guarantee anyone games. Surely it should be a reward for good performances
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Do you not think it's a little bit more of balancing act when you're bringing in a 2nd choice keeper though? It's quite hard to find someone who is good enough to step in when needed at the highest level, but is willing to not be a first choice. I guess guaranteeing someone a set number of games a season is a trade off you make to get a better back up. Like I said though, that still has to be contingent on competent performances. I don't really think we could be accused of letting Caballero down if he was to be dropped for the final based on yesterday's performance.
 
GaudBlessYa said:
I really don't get it. By all means give the back up keeper a game in Round 3 at home to lower league opposition but to select him to play a final against dangerous opponents and based purely on sentiment is absolutely ridiculous. There is no football logic behind it whatsoever. It's difficult for the club to bang on about the importance and glory of winning trophies, if when a perfectly good opportunity arises to win one, you start sacrificing your best team. We already gave up on one trophy yesterday albeit in more debatable circumstances.
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Agree and the situation with Pants was somewhat different. He while not spectacular was a lot more reliable than Willy has been. Playing him in that Final was far less risky that putting Cabellero in goals next Sunday. I expect the manager to bite the bullet on this one and play Joe.
 
geoff clipp said:
Do you not think it's a little bit more of balancing act when you're bringing in a 2nd choice keeper though? It's quite hard to find someone who is good enough to step in when needed at the highest level, but is willing to not be a first choice. I guess guaranteeing someone a set number of games a season is a trade off you make to get a better back up. Like I said though, that still has to be contingent on competent performances. I don't really think we could be accused of letting Caballero down if he was to be dropped for the final based on yesterday's performance.
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let hope pellers does the sensible thing
 
Father Paul said:
Agree and the situation with Pants was somewhat different. He while not spectacular was a lot more reliable than Willy has been. Playing him in that Final was far less risky that putting Cabellero in goals next Sunday. I expect the manager to bite the bullet on this one and play Joe.
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I will be crossing my fingers that Willy isn't selected - am already worried that MP will be arrogant enough to think Kloppites won't be good enough on the day to beat us, and that they over-run us again.
 
I get the logic of having a competitive second keeper playing the cup games. But if he's not playing well enough then he shouldn't be playing.

If Hart was playing poorly he would be dropped.
 
karen7 said:
Willy has been consistantly bad for ages,he is a risk that we do not to take,joe is number 1 for a reason and if we want to win we have to give ourselves the best chance and willy is not it
As for the first part of your post you are lucky i don't offend easily
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I'm offended Karen.
 
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