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Have the latest charges made you more or less passionate about City?
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Dirty Harry
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I’m similar, it’s more about injustice for me, I’d feel similar if it was any other club that had been targeted, hung, drawn, and quartered, without having a fair trial, just so happens, with it being my club, I’m more emotionally invested and involved.More. There's nothing in life that can make you feel more angry inside than injustice / a feeling you aren't being treated fairly.
So many people have lost all logic when it comes to this case, aided and abetted by our woefully poor media.
Bluekiwi
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Every club in the PL (with probably a couple of red exceptions) should want to see City INNOCENT of all charges). Why?
Because they can virtually guarantee a sell out for their fans to see the BEST team in the EPL whilst hoping they can steal points off us which will be a real kudos for them.
Because they can virtually guarantee a sell out for their fans to see the BEST team in the EPL whilst hoping they can steal points off us which will be a real kudos for them.
Immel & Dibble
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Blackpool at home in league 1.MR was packed.Thats us.They will never beat us...Ever.
For me it’s not so much the premier league charges that have bothered me it’s the sheer amount of opposition fans that have jumped on the social media gravy train.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen so much vitriol aimed at my club by fans of every single club in this league.
The same fans who complained about utds dominance and financial advantage they had for years.
I know most fans hate clubs that win all the time myself included but this hate for our club is off the scale!
In answer to the op?
I’m even more behind the club if that’s even possible and will be with them whatever the outcome.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen so much vitriol aimed at my club by fans of every single club in this league.
The same fans who complained about utds dominance and financial advantage they had for years.
I know most fans hate clubs that win all the time myself included but this hate for our club is off the scale!
In answer to the op?
I’m even more behind the club if that’s even possible and will be with them whatever the outcome.
christened at st marks
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Always passionate about City but hate modern football ethics and culture
I've spoken to a few friends who support other clubs about sportswashing as a result of this. It's been helpful to clarify what I think, really, as I feel they are conflating a whole lot of related but disconnected issues:
City cooking the books: I strongly feel that if we are shown to have broken the rules in a major way, it's right we should be punished. But that may takes years and City are being judged guilty until proven innocent, which is unfair
"Dirty" money in football: my view is that most money in football is dirty to some extent, because most big corporations are basically willing to act immorally if it advantages them. But when pushed, yes, I do feel quite uncomfortable about investment into City from a regime that has a dodgy human rights record.
Financial governance: strongly feel that city is a v well run club, especially vs the shower at the Swamp.
Big money bestows unfair advantages in football: Yes, of course money buys success, and that sucks. I totally get that fans get frustrated when other clubs hit the jackpot and they don't. But I can't recall a time when the dominant teams weren't the ones who were also financially dominant, and exploited that advantage to the hilt. It's the reality, sadly. Personally, would prefer a more even playing field, American franchise approach, but can't see that ever happening.
PL/UEFA moral grandstanding: UEFA and the PL don't actually care about *where* money comes from and whether it's ethical; They are uninterested in responsible ownership (ADUG has been a million times better for the city of Manchester than the Glazers); they are uninterested in independent regulation of the game; they are uninterested in fans' experience; BUT they suddenly claim the moral high ground when the big teams' CL qualification is threatened by new money being pumped into old clubs. UEFA and the PL claiming to be defenders of some kind of sense of fair play is a complete joke.
So that's the web of issues that kind of overlap for me here, and I suspect for other fans, too. I think it's only the first being investigated, but many of us struggle to keep these these separate, so it all becomes one big, unhelpful argument.
City cooking the books: I strongly feel that if we are shown to have broken the rules in a major way, it's right we should be punished. But that may takes years and City are being judged guilty until proven innocent, which is unfair
"Dirty" money in football: my view is that most money in football is dirty to some extent, because most big corporations are basically willing to act immorally if it advantages them. But when pushed, yes, I do feel quite uncomfortable about investment into City from a regime that has a dodgy human rights record.
Financial governance: strongly feel that city is a v well run club, especially vs the shower at the Swamp.
Big money bestows unfair advantages in football: Yes, of course money buys success, and that sucks. I totally get that fans get frustrated when other clubs hit the jackpot and they don't. But I can't recall a time when the dominant teams weren't the ones who were also financially dominant, and exploited that advantage to the hilt. It's the reality, sadly. Personally, would prefer a more even playing field, American franchise approach, but can't see that ever happening.
PL/UEFA moral grandstanding: UEFA and the PL don't actually care about *where* money comes from and whether it's ethical; They are uninterested in responsible ownership (ADUG has been a million times better for the city of Manchester than the Glazers); they are uninterested in independent regulation of the game; they are uninterested in fans' experience; BUT they suddenly claim the moral high ground when the big teams' CL qualification is threatened by new money being pumped into old clubs. UEFA and the PL claiming to be defenders of some kind of sense of fair play is a complete joke.
So that's the web of issues that kind of overlap for me here, and I suspect for other fans, too. I think it's only the first being investigated, but many of us struggle to keep these these separate, so it all becomes one big, unhelpful argument.
Len Rum
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Why would your ' interest' start to wain if we were relegated and titles stripped?Pretty much the same, I've thought about the possible outcome if we are found guilty and I could quite easily live with a huge fine and points deduction, but would be well deflated with relegation and titles stripped off us. I'm pretty sure my interest could start to wain pretty quickly if that happened. But as for the rest of this season it's siege mentality time and I want us to fuck teams over more than ever, fuck em all City
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Johnny Mars Bar
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Goes up and down for me.
I enjoyed the game yesterday and the atmosphere was great. But in the days leading up to it I was debating whether to bother going at all and thinking maybe I’m done with football.
I enjoyed the game yesterday and the atmosphere was great. But in the days leading up to it I was debating whether to bother going at all and thinking maybe I’m done with football.
Johnny Mars Bar
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Blackpool at home in league 1.MR was packed.Thats us.They will never beat us...Ever.
City v Blackpool in the late 90s (Google tells me it was 97) was the first game I remember going to.