Have we have got our attitude and a spine of Captains back?

I love your positivity, mate!

But if every single one of Donnarumma, Diaz, Stones, Foden, Rodri, B. Silva and Haaland magically transfer to Liverpool and become available to play...

I think that Foden (on current excellent form) and Rodri would start.

Haaland doesn't particularly fit Liverpool's system - but might start ahead of Isak given that he's more prolific at scoring.

No way that Donnarumma, Diaz, Stones, or Silva make the first choice starting 11 for Liverpool most times.

A fully fit - injury free Stones would make his way into Liverpool's side. But due to injury he'd often be unavailable.
Haaland is already in the argument for the greatest number 9 in history. His statistics are off the scale.

He would be in the first XI for any team on the planet.

The argument of saying his style doesn't suit a club doesn't work - it's like saying 2010 Messi wouldn't get into Stoke's first XI cause he wouldn't be much use of Delap's throw ins... :')
 
Can I just confirm that Bluemoon’s official position re the match is that we don’t have to hide behind the couch throughout and instead have permission to peep round the corner every now and again?
 
Yes, the future belongs to Donna and Gvardiol. When VVD was 23 he was still playing in Scotland. Talent wise Gvardiol is at least comparable. Next summer VVD is 35.

And Donna is already as good as Alisson being 7 years younger.
I applaud your enthusiasm - but disagree.

Arsenal will be a first test of our side. And as the league runs on - we'll face numerous other stern challenges. Let's see how Donnarumma and Gvardiol fare over the course of this season.

Gvardiol is a talent - but isn't at the level of VVD IMO.

And Donnarumma - when on form - he's world #1 or #2 at shot stopping... but... there's much more to a keeper's game.
 
Yes, the future belongs to Donna and Gvardiol. When VVD was 23 he was still playing in Scotland. Talent wise Gvardiol is at least comparable. Next summer VVD is 35.

And Donna is already as good as Alisson being 7 years younger.
A better argument is 'Would we swap Donna and Gvardiol for Alison and VVD'?

If you're talking about a one off game, then maybe, but if you look past the next season, no chance.
 
Donnarumma looks like he has given a few a wake up call, tonight we looked like we wouldn't be bullied

the spine of our team needs to be

Donnarumma

Diaz or Stones

Foden
Rodri
Silva

Haarland

Every one of them would get in Liverpool and Arsenals starting 11 IMO!


All SEVEN of them are treble winners and all are captains! That experience and attitude is exactly what united had in the early 2000's under Ferguson! if the above players want it like they did tonight, the rest of the squad will give everything they have to be part of it, and raise their game!

If we carry on wanting it like we did tonight, teams will soon be scared of playing us again, and be beat before they step foot on the pitch! just like in 2023!

Foden was born to do this, David Silva was his teacher!
IMHO from a Gooner perspective Haaland, Rodri and a proper on form Foden get into our team. Donnarumma is a top keeper but so is Raya so I'd be happy with either. Dias or Stones don't get in ahead of Saliba or Gabriel. Silva I'm not sure why he's on your list - to me he seems over the hill now and nowhere near where he was a couple of seasons ago.

IMHO you've missed out Gvardiol - he's a beast and will develop into the best player on the planet in his position.
 
A better argument is 'Would we swap Donna and Gvardiol for Alison and VVD'?

If you're talking about a one off game, then maybe, but if you look past the next season, no chance.
In a one off game - for sure I'd make the trade.

Transfermarkt backs your claim looking forward in terms of value - so fair point there.

My main point confusion about our side - is I've no clue at all about how we want to play. Are we a pressing side valuing ball control and possession highly - or are we a side aiming for defensive solidity first - willing to cede ball control and possession, attacking on the counter - or something else?

Whatever we're aiming at... it's not clear to me what that is - and our side doesn't fit either style of play on a player-by-player assessment.
 
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Sorry to Trafford but the mentality Donna brings goes beyond just saving shots. He's making the defenders play better just by being there.
We immediately look stronger at defensive set pieces. Donna has transformed the defence. Trafford will get plenty of games and can learn from Donna.
 
Let's not get too giddy

It's looking a lot healthier but we've just beaten a poor United and overcome a stubborn but limited Napoli, assisted by their early red card.

Regardless of the results our last two performances at Arsenal have been subdued. Let's see how we perform on Sunday
Napoli were described on Sky as a fantastic side.
 
I love your positivity, mate!

But if every single one of Donnarumma, Diaz, Stones, Foden, Rodri, B. Silva and Haaland magically transfer to Liverpool and become available to play...

I think that Foden (on current excellent form) and Rodri would start.

Haaland doesn't particularly fit Liverpool's system - but might start ahead of Isak given that he's more prolific at scoring.

No way that Donnarumma, Diaz, Stones, or Silva make the first choice starting 11 for Liverpool most times.

A fully fit - injury free Stones would make his way into Liverpool's side. But due to injury he'd often be unavailable.
I think Donnarumma starts,
Diaz starts over Konate
Rodri starts
Haaland starts

Bernardo, Stones and Foden probably not. You could make an argument for Foden over Wirtz at the min but that could be argued either way
 
I said when we bought Donnarumma that we'd bought a leader, a winner and a presence. Someone who wouldn't accept second best or excuses.
 
Gvardiol is a talent - but isn't at the level of VVD IMO.

And Donnarumma - when on form - he's world #1 or #2 at shot stopping... but... there's much more to a keeper's game

Gvardiol is a talent - and will reach the level of VVD IMO.

And Usain Bolt - when on form - was world #1 at running fast ... but... there's much more to being a sprinter
 
As mad as it sounds, I don’t think we played brilliantly against United. We conceded too many chances and were lucky that they are absolutely shite. We were good to create more chances ourselves - but an absolute mile off how controlled we were in 22/23.

Last night was significantly better, but clearly supported by the early red card.

I don’t think we should be getting giddy after two games. Arsenal will be a real test on Sunday (sorry to be negative, just an honest view).
We were by far the better side before the red card. We kept the ball a lot better yesterday than against them lot from trafford. No need to be negative Blue
 
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Haaland is already in the argument for the greatest number 9 in history. His statistics are off the scale.

He would be in the first XI for any team on the planet.

The argument of saying his style doesn't suit a club doesn't work - it's like saying 2010 Messi wouldn't get into Stoke's first XI cause he wouldn't be much use of Delap's throw ins... :')
Haaland wouldn't start for PSG ahead of Dembele - he doesn't fit their style ; PSG have already moved away from the likes of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe - building a side that's pure work rate, ball control, speed, aggressive press, no ego, team-above-self, and is as a result - the best side in football.

The argument you present - that style of play doesn't matter - presumably just get the best players - well, that was PSG 4 years ago - and they failed and failed to win the C/L - because style of play matters - and so too does work ethic, support for the team, lack of ego.
 
IMHO from a Gooner perspective Haaland, Rodri and a proper on form Foden get into our team. Donnarumma is a top keeper but so is Raya so I'd be happy with either. Dias or Stones don't get in ahead of Saliba or Gabriel. Silva I'm not sure why he's on your list - to me he seems over the hill now and nowhere near where he was a couple of seasons ago.

IMHO you've missed out Gvardiol - he's a beast and will develop into the best player on the planet in his position.

I think this is just standard though. Every top team in the world will argue that the spine of their team is better than others, its what makes them a top team.

For instance I think your shout for Raya over Donnarumma is crazy but then again I'm going to say that.

Interesting what you say about Gvardiol though as I agree but unless I've not seen it, the general opinion of him seems to be he's just a better than average CB.
 
Haaland wouldn't start for PSG ahead of Dembele - he doesn't fit their style/ And PSG have already moved away from the likes of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe - building a side that's pure work rate, ball control, speed, aggressive press, no ego, team first and is as a result - the best side in football.

The argument you present that style of play doesn't matter - presumably just get the best players - well, that was PSG 4 years ago - and they failed and failed to win the C/L - because style of play matters.
The fact you think Enrique couldn't work with a player like Haaland is wild. There were people saying Pep couldn't either when he first signed.

As for your comments comparing him to when they had Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, the whole reason that didn't work was ego's. Haaland isn't exactly known for his ego is he. In fact everything you hear from the other players and coaches is that he's down to earth and part of the squad. I fail to see what your point is.
 
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The fact you think Enrique couldn't work with a player like Haaland is wild. There were people saying Pep couldn't either when he first signed.

As for your comments comparing him to when they had Messi, Neymar and Mbappe, the whole reason that didn't work was ego's. Haaland is exactly known for his ego is he. In fact everything you hear from the other players and coaches is that he's down to earth and part of the squad. I fail to see what your point is.

His point in every single thread is downplaying the quality of our players or performances.
 
Liverpool have won their last 5 games without a ‘wow performance’, they’ve looked like not winning each and every one of them.

We’ve played very well the last two games, this will build over time. The derby and a CL game against the Italian champions are big games.
I can't be arsed getting into an argument especially with poor logic, candlepool are the champions they didn't have a poor season and are top.of table, I'm talking about us coz thats all.im bothered about as a city supporter.

Big game as against a good side to show we are improving as stated.

Fucks sake:-)
 
His point in every single thread is downplaying the quality of our players or performances.
You've obviously overlooked my recent posts about Doku, all of my posts about Reijnders, my posts about Foden and on and on. You've also overlooked my man-of-the match selections - numerous of which are counter to my overall assessment of any particular player.

I call performances as I see them - good, bad, or otherwise.

My team is City and I route for our side and for every player to perform at their best every single game. That said, I post about performances based on what I see - unfiltered by club loyalty.
 

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