Have we reached the point where players don't care?

[heslops barnet]

Just as the headline suggests, are players now getting to the point of being too wealthy to even bother to do as they are told? I can't remember so many players having huge squabbles with managers or whole squads under-performing and not seeming that bothered about it.

Was a time when managers probably earned a lot more than the players…..a lots changed

 

[Lavinda Past]

Was a time when managers probably earned a lot more than the players…..a lots changed

Just made me think... Can you imagine Joe Mercer having control over Stan Bowles' pocket money, with his wife's consent, nowadays?

 

[FightLikeAGirl]

I would say to a point yes they certainly dont care about the fans or doing a fair days (90 minutes) work.

When at work they dont rush to play, they take fucking ages to take a goal kick, if I took that long at work I would be on a warding.

So yes some players roll around like they have a broke leg or to have a rest after doing 20 minutes work.

These players who dont want to do 90 minutes work are ripping us fans off. We pay 70 odd quid to only see 45 minutes of football. If I only did 4 hrs work out of my 8 hrs day I would be sacked and not in half a million a week.

That’s because they’re deliberately trying to waste time. Yes, Martinez, I do mean you.

 

[Crouchinho]

It's been like that for a few years. It was brewing in the background

When a player is a millionaire before 20 you're set for life. There is no incentive to get better unless you have inner drive and determination to better yourself.

When Pogba spoke out against Jose I thought he was nuts. But to me that was when players had more power than the manager. It ended up getting him sacked. It was always a slippery slope

We see this in schools, the work place and even some cases parenting. The ones who are in control are losing it.

Whenever I complain about change I feel like a caveman but some things just don't sit right with me. Maybe I'm too old school!!!

 

[Hoghead]

It all started with the alcoholic wife beating George Best. Blame him.

 

[FightLikeAGirl]

It's been like that for a few years. It was brewing in the background

When a player is a millionaire before 20 you're set for life. There is no incentive to get better unless you have inner drive and determination to better yourself.

When Pogba spoke out against Jose I thought he was nuts. But to me that was when players had more power than the manager. It ended up getting him sacked. It was always a slippery slope

We see this in schools, the work place and even some cases parenting. The ones who are in control are losing it.

Whenever I complain about change I feel like a caveman but some things just don't sit right with me. Maybe I'm too old school!!!

But then you get players like Vialli who were loaded and still played for the love of the game. There has to be players like that still, surely?

 

[Slipper One]

Pep has always wanted a 16 player squad of players he could trust. Doesn’t work when you play in the PL, because there are too many games and they usually come every 3 days!

You look at Potter at Chelsea and he’s complaining he has 37 pros and he simply can’t train them all, or even play them all, in training, so how’s he supposed to know who is performing?!

That said, I think players at top clubs are lorded over in ways players from even just 10 yrs ago might be surprised. EVERYTHING is laid on for them and they’re treated like royalty, because the money sloshing around the game is simply outrageous!

In what other line of work do halfwits make 6 figures PER YEAR, let alone PER WEEK?! Yet, every Top 6 club has a shed load of them!

I think there is a point at which some players lose the plot and start to believe their own fantasy, while there are others for whom the money and adulation is far easier to cope with.

Even within our own team, we can all name players who would be successful at almost anything anywhere, yet can probably name quite a few who would struggle to hold down a white collar job anywhere doing anything!

Success is a mindset, just as ambition is a personal trait that can drive on some people while destroying others.

Alexander-Arnold comes to mind.

Puts a nice pass in every couple of games, scores a beauty of a freekick one in twenty tries, but it seems beneath him at times to run back and help out his defence.

No wonder Southgate doesn't fancy him.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Hasn't the measurement of success changed now?

We now have 8 teams competing for four slots. Chaotic transfer business by the likes of Chelsea, top heavy squads such as PSG who have spunked everything on three luxury players and have lesser players in midfield and veterans in defence.

The roles and responsibilities of footballers has now changed. The typical stopper centre back who isn't good at passing out from the back now struggles to get in top sides.

Where as top sides often used to have them as their captains, similar change with sweeper keepers.

If we get second and win the FA cup would it be the poor season?

2011 we won the FA Cup and finished joint second on points and most of us thought we had a very good season.

No we were third, points same but that’s like saying the following year the tags finished joint 1st on points!

 

[Axel Freed]

Alexander-Arnold comes to mind.

Puts a nice pass in every couple of games, scores a beauty of a freekick one in twenty tries, but it seems beneath him at times to run back and help out his defence.

No wonder Southgate doesn't fancy him.

But if his deluded, vastly overrated club manager doesn’t impress on him the need to defend properly and keeps picking him then why would TAA do any different ?

 

[Maly]

Just as the headline suggests, are players now getting to the point of being too wealthy to even bother to do as they are told? I can't remember so many players having huge squabbles with managers or whole squads under-performing and not seeming that bothered about it.

Think that’s always happened mate, just much more publicity now

Plus, HR has changed somewhat. I don’t think managers can give players a good kicking anymore ;)