Have we turned into Rag Fans?

guinnessdaze said:
twistedAM said:
Everyone at work called me an arrogant **** tonight. I said to them that all I did was say City won and in past years I never had as many opportunities to say that.
It's just jealousy. Who really cares what they think?
That's exactly my point,we will end up trying to explain that we are NOT glory hunters and have supported since year dot,that will go with being successful I'm afraid.I remember when i had my City shirt on abroad and people would wave and give you the thumbs up...not now.

Yeah. I'm going to wear my Rosler/Rizla hat tomorrow cos of the weather and most of the f8cks won't have a clue who Uwe was.

They did have a point tonight though when a Liverpool fan said we were buying the title and I took £20 out of the till and offered to give it to him if he agreed to buy a good book on understanding racism.
 
IanBishopsHaircut said:
I'm on another forum and it has a mixture of fans from lots of clubs and they really do hate City..

Even more worrying they hate City fans..

They call us 'Arrogant'

Arrogant?

Have some of us really become arrogant?

Do we have anything to be arrogant about yet?

Are our fans starting to act like rags?

Personally I couldn't be further from arrogant

I was still shitting myself when we were 2-0 up today against Fulham

So where is this reputation coming from?

Internet talk... from forums like this, nothing to do with most of the 40k+.. which, after all is all that counts in the real world.
 
Some people have. Putting gold badges on designs for next season's kit just screams arrogance.

Also threads saying 'When we win the league...' and not 'if'.

We just need to tone it down a little bit. Would be much better if we were humble, took defeats on the chin and just supported the team. We don't have a right to win every game and teams will defend for their lives against us. Let's just accept it, enjoy the challenge and go for it as best we can do. Then if we win it we can celebrate and if we don't then that's part of sport.
 
For the most part no.

However, singing things like "we score when we want" is a little bit and doesn't really help. But regardless of what we do sing I can never see us getting as arrogant as the Rags.
 
Human nature, I'm afraid to say, doesn't change from club to club. The fact is that within any group of people who are presented with success a number of them are going to deal with it in an ungracious and undignified manner.

Some people react to a lottery win by ensuring that they see the world in all its cosmopolitan beauty and try to improve themselves in every imaginable way - and then there's Michael Carroll.

City have always had fans that I have found objectionable. I have had several run ins down the years with fans who I have considered to be overly negative to the point of parody. Getting on players backs game after game. I suspect many of our 'old' fans who are behaving and talking in a manner that many dislike are those fans with a new means of expressing their wider unhappiness with the world at a football game. The fact is some people aren't happy unless they're miserable and a section of our supporters are no different, even though, in my eyes at least, it renders them as an embarrassment to themselves.

It is frankly absurd when you think about it, that some of our fans consider finishing second this season as 'embarrassing' when you consider where we've come from. I guess it goes to show you how quickly human beings can adapt to whatever new circumstances they find themselves in, but it does not reflect at all well on their sense of perspective or, for that matter, reality.

I just wish they could appreciate every day of this magical and unexpected journey we are on as City fans. It's their loss that they do not seem to realise just how blessed we are to watch the players we have at this club we love turning out week after week. It just goes to show you that some people's nature will supercede whatever good fortune life throws at it and in that sense I genuinely feel sorry for them.
 
I think our fanbase remains much as it ever was. The humour's still there. Had a good laugh yesterday. The miserable fuckers who love slagging off our players are still here. Heard them too. There's always been arrogant banter i.e. small town in..., and practically every game I can remember from the second division that we won had [scoreline] in your cup final. No different to we'll score when we want in my opinion. There's always some underlying irony which I'd hope most fans will understand for what it is. As for general arrogance, I don't know. I expect to win the title because I believe we have the best side but is that arrogance or is it justified? We're top of the league with the best scoring and defensive records. Are Bluemoon meltdowns a sign of creeping arrogance? Possibly. We should never be above being beaten by a particular class of opposition, that probably is ragish behaviour. Just as long as we're not being consistently beaten by lower league opposition then it shouldn't be a cause for concern.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Human nature, I'm afraid to say, doesn't change from club to club. The fact is that within any group of people who are presented with success a number of them are going to deal with it in an ungracious and undignified manner.

Some people react to a lottery win by ensuring that they see the world in all its cosmopolitan beauty and try to improve themselves in every imaginable way - and then there's Michael Carroll.

City have always had fans that I have found objectionable. I have had several run ins down the years with fans who I have considered to be overly negative to the point of parody. Getting on players backs game after game. I suspect many of our 'old' fans who are behaving and talking in a manner that many dislike are those fans with a new means of expressing their wider unhappiness with the world at a football game. The fact is some people aren't happy unless they're miserable and a section of our supporters are no different, even though, in my eyes at least, it renders them as an embarrassment to themselves.

It is frankly absurd when you think about it, that some of our fans consider finishing second this season as 'embarrassing' when you consider where we've come from. I guess it goes to show you how quickly human beings can adapt to whatever new circumstances they find themselves in, but it does not reflect at all well on their sense of perspective or, for that matter, reality.

I just wish they could appreciate every day of this magical and unexpected journey we are on as City fans. It's their loss that they do not seem to realise just how blessed we are to watch the players we have at this club we love turning out week after week. It just goes to show you that some people's nature will supercede whatever good fortune life throws at it and in that sense I genuinely feel sorry for them.

This is correct. The human nature/lottery win analogy goes further. When someone wins the lottery, the media are all over them like a rash, not for the good that they intend doing but for any dirt they can dig up. Remember that scottish couple who were stupid enough to announce their £164m win ? Next thing you know the papers are full of the wife's estranged son. There's a basic human trait that looks at other people's good fortune and makes us think "I deserve it more". The media panders to that.

You also have to throw in the difference between "hope" and "expectation". We used to hope we'd win stuff. Now, because of the money spent, we expect to win games/trophies. Some people get hysterical about it and, to those who want to see it as a reflection of the rest of us, make us look like spoilt children.
 

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