TCIB
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Swales lives said:
Bwahahahahahahahahaha, proper dodgy bugger he is.
Now come here Morris, fresh in this.
Swales lives said:
i love you swalesy! pmslSwales lives said:
Uncle Wally One Ball said:The party trick of a bloke in a pub near me is to put as many 2p pieces as he can into his. I think its a stupid amount he's up to. He's got a fore, five and six skin its like Stan Ogden's neck
Swales lives said:
toby said:Not even as earrings lol
Anyway why do you want to know ?
hahaha i laughedTelford_Blue_Hixxy said:Its gonna be a loooooong pre season....
Telford_Blue_Hixxy said:Its gonna be a loooooong pre season....
TCIB said:Yes, no fucknut has butchered my sexual organs in the name of some dodgy abrahamic faith.
I find those that feel they know better than 100's of thousands of years of evolution very very disturbed.
markbmcfc said:Yes, but I wouldn't mind knowing why the fuck parents choose to have their kids cock butchered without him having the slightest say or choice in the matter.
Unless God said so, that would explain it.
green pennies said:TCIB said:Yes, no fucknut has butchered my sexual organs in the name of some dodgy abrahamic faith.
I find those that feel they know better than 100's of thousands of years of evolution very very disturbed.
markbmcfc said:Yes, but I wouldn't mind knowing why the fuck parents choose to have their kids cock butchered without him having the slightest say or choice in the matter.
Unless God said so, that would explain it.
OK, here goes:
1. I'm as atheist as the day is long. I believe religion is generally a force for evil in the world, as it makes humans commit atrocities they would never otherwise consider against their fellow man.
2. While it has religious origins, I don't feel that circumcision is one of these atrocities. As I said, I could give a damn about abrahamic traditions. However, like a lot of things in a lot of holy books, I think circumcision probably got in there more to protect a group of nomadic bronze age tribesmen from themselves and their surroundings (dietary restrictions anyone?) moreso than to cripple them sexually. It was important that they were able to be fruitful and multiply, after all.
3. I am circumcised. My son is circumcised. In both cases, the reason is simple: cleanliness. It seems self evident why this sort of thing is done. I will grant that with proper cleaning and attention to detail, it probably doesn't make too much of a difference, but if it comes down to it, I'd rather that my son not have some dirt trapped under his foreskin, simple as that.
4. I can only speak from my own experience and logic, but claims that sexual pleasure is greatly reduced or that some great psychological harm is done seem to me to be greatly exaggerated at best, or completely fabricated at worst. Of course the easy thing would be to ask adults who have undergone the procedure, but for obvious reasons they are few, and they are all going from uncircumcised to circumcised (and probably have a vested interest/mental desire to be that way in the first place, so we mostly can predict what they will say). Until it can be done the other way around, we may not truly know. (Yeah Yeah, I know some wacky one time reverse circumcision may have been done somewhere and skin put back on, but you know what I mean.)
5. I think it is utter and absolute bullshit that people refer to circumcision as "mutilation". While I was always a big fan of free-thinker and prominent atheist Christopher Hitchens, this was one area where he absolutely lost me. He used to compare circumcision to clitoral removal! If one cannot see the distinction between those two things, then I don't even know what to say...
Lastly, I'm always curious if those who are against it are circumcised. Are there any who are uncircumcised and speak out against the procedure just because they like their foreskin that much? Just curious. I suppose it doesn't make a difference since ostensibly you didn't have a choice, but I do oftentimes sense that latent anger over being cut themselves in there somewhere. Not that you aren't entitled to feel as you like about your knob and all...