Help for my boys with City myths from Liverpool fans

Hmmm, Liverpool fans don't seem to even know what history really means, is the first point anyone should make.

Liverpool are a club that was "manufactured" by a stadium owner when Everton left in a dispute with him. This is not the "organic" way a football club is formed, which normally starts with a local team first and progresses into a club and so on.

City joined the Football League before Liverpool did.

Liverpool weren't even the most successful club in their own city until the mid 70s, Everton were.

They were a division two club for the best part of a decade(8 years in a row) before they were financially doped back into significance by Littlewoods' owners at the start of the 60s. Without that, Liverpool would never have landed Shankly and may have continued to languish in the lower tier of English football, while Everton pulled clearer away. For this reason, they are known in some circles as Littlewoods FC.

In 1970, Liverpool had exactly the same amount of major honours as both Manchester City and Spurs. The latter two both picking up a UEFA recognised major European trophy before Liverpool did. Liverpool didn't do this until a few years later(1973).

1970 - English Club - Major Honours Top List

1: Aston Villa 14
2: Man United 11
3: Arsenal 10, Everton 10, Newcastle 10
4: Manchester City 8, Liverpool 8, Spurs 8
5: Sunderland 7, Sheffield Wed 7, Wolves 7
 
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Forget clever arguments at that age it won’t work.

Just repeat “why is your team so bad?” over and over. To answer the question they must first agree with the premise.
your teams is wank and then add worse prem champs in history, throw in the odd comment of don't lean on that wall and it should do the trick............
 
My lads have just told me that they are getting grief from “scousers” at school with the usual bullshit: “no history” and “bought success”. They were shocked in the car when I gave them a quick history lesson and told them that city won the Fa cup 60 years before Liverpool and a European trophy before them too. They had never heard of The LIttlewoods family pumping money into the club to “buy” success back in the 60s and 70s.

I’ve seen posts/tweets on here before with these facts in more detail but can’t seem to find one. I seem to remember a Gary James article on that basis. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I want to give my lads a little potted guide to use in future to hit back when some silly arsed 11 year old kid tries to sneer at city. They won’t know what’s hit them.

thanks for any help.
Some simple rebukes that come in handy is asking them where Anfield is, asking them how many times they’ve been, point out their suspiciously low attendance when the ash cloud stopped flights from Scandinavia.
 
My lads have just told me that they are getting grief from “scousers” at school with the usual bullshit: “no history” and “bought success”. They were shocked in the car when I gave them a quick history lesson and told them that city won the Fa cup 60 years before Liverpool and a European trophy before them too. They had never heard of The LIttlewoods family pumping money into the club to “buy” success back in the 60s and 70s.

I’ve seen posts/tweets on here before with these facts in more detail but can’t seem to find one. I seem to remember a Gary James article on that basis. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I want to give my lads a little potted guide to use in future to hit back when some silly arsed 11 year old kid tries to sneer at city. They won’t know what’s hit them.

thanks for any help.
 
Don’t forget to mention the large sums of money they receive from their shirt sponsors, a highly reputable (?) bank, all freshly laundered on behalf of drug and people traffickers, and murderers of children at concerts.
 
£50m 'spent' on their new nonexistent stadium which allowed them to dodge those pesky FFP rules. You know the ones that City were exhonerated for "breaking"
 
Is the school in didsbury? If it is and the ‘scousers’ have no actual connection to liverpool other than there dads being glory hunting cocks of the 80s then there opinion means jack shit
City appeared in 6 FA Cup Finals before Liverpool got to 1, in 1965.
 
plenty of material to argue back ... but dont forget to finish with.. "our owners are the best in the world and your only fukin jealous ....
 
Is the school in didsbury? If it is and the ‘scousers’ have no actual connection to liverpool other than there dads being glory hunting cocks of the 80s then there opinion means jack shit
Can their Dad's sleep at night or have they got blood on their hands from Heysel and Hillsborough ?
 

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