Help with season ticket dilemma (early I know)

GazC said:
Phate said:
GazC said:
It's not like tax/ni, you don't pay on the amount above the threshold but your whole salary. If you don't know this, well good luck with finding full time employment when you finish your degree.

A level and degree in math, well stats fwiw.

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You are completely wrong. You pay on any earnings above £21000. I've applied this year and when I went to interview at Manchester Uni they explained it as well as having it explained in tutorial at college.

You really want to question my math on the working out still?

I didn't realise the repayment scheme will be changing, it's 7 years since I finished uni. Be thankful you're getting off lightly in that case!

I'm not sure of the exact structure of the old one but I thought it was similar (except threshold was £15000 and you only pay on earnings over that)?

Under this new repayment scheme people aren't being priced out which was my point and those that can't work out what they pay back probably shouldn't be going to uni anyway.
 
Phate said:
GazC said:
Phate said:
You are completely wrong. You pay on any earnings above £21000. I've applied this year and when I went to interview at Manchester Uni they explained it as well as having it explained in tutorial at college.

You really want to question my math on the working out still?

I didn't realise the repayment scheme will be changing, it's 7 years since I finished uni. Be thankful you're getting off lightly in that case!

I'm not sure of the exact structure of the old one but I thought it was similar (except threshold was £15000 and you only pay on earnings over that)?

Under this new repayment scheme people aren't being priced out which was my point and those that can't work out what they pay back probably shouldn't be going to uni anyway.

Nope, unfortunately it's a fixed percentage with no threshold, the benefit being you pay far less back in interest and as it's taken before tax anyway it's effect is negligible.

I agree with you on that point, but the graduate market has been over saturated since the nineties. Even going to Manchester won't set you apart from the field these days, dependent on your field, hence my comment about going to man met then completing a post grad at a more prestigious uni.

Ultimately the rbs, coop, British gas and e-sure call centres in Manchester are full of both manc and manc met graduates paying their way through post grad studies. If you think the name of the uni on your degree is going to open doors you need a rethink.
 
GazC said:
Phate said:
GazC said:
I didn't realise the repayment scheme will be changing, it's 7 years since I finished uni. Be thankful you're getting off lightly in that case!

I'm not sure of the exact structure of the old one but I thought it was similar (except threshold was £15000 and you only pay on earnings over that)?

Under this new repayment scheme people aren't being priced out which was my point and those that can't work out what they pay back probably shouldn't be going to uni anyway.

Nope, unfortunately it's a fixed percentage with no threshold, the benefit being you pay far less back in interest and as it's taken before tax anyway it's effect is negligible.

I agree with you on that point, but the graduate market has been over saturated since the nineties. Even going to Manchester won't set you apart from the field these days, dependent on your field, hence my comment about going to man met then completing a post grad at a more prestigious uni.

Ultimately the rbs, coop, British gas and e-sure call centres in Manchester are full of both manc and manc met graduates paying their way through post grad studies. If you think the name of the uni on your degree is going to open doors you need a rethink.

Well Manchester is my Insurance, Firm choice is Oxford. Unless you want to claim that having a masters from Oxford won't give me a higher chance of employment (with better pay) than a degree at man met and a masters from elsewhere. It should be fairly obvious that the prestige on the name of my uni degree will be pretty damn important when it comes to the caliber of jobs I'll be able to get.
 
GazC said:
BlueMoon_1987 said:
I'm looking into getting my first season ticket for next season.

Do posters have any advice regarding availability/when you can buy?

Prices and buying windows were announced on the 24th of April last year, so expect it any time now, most likely when the title race has been decided. I'd think only several hundred will be available to buy next season given we have a record number of season ticket holders this year and FA rules state a certain percentage of match tickets have to be available for every league game. It might be worth dropping the ticket office and email and inquiring about a waiting list.

I spoke to the Ticket Office last week and there is no waiting list, the club doesn't want the administration. To apply you must be at least a Blue member this year and wait until after the window for seasoncard seat switching. So I'll be at the ticket office as the sun comes up to get a ticket for my brither and nephew. Just like the old days 1st come, 1st served
 
Phate said:
GazC said:
Phate said:
Is this a serious suggestion?

Yep, it doesn't really matter where you do your undergraduate degree with the job market as it is - get a decent first or a 2:1 at Manc Met and then do your post graduate degree at Manchester. The end result is the same.

Anyway, you keep giving your pompous views of Manc Met to fans of a football club that are overwhelmingly working class.

Yes it does matter, it matters a great deal in a lot of jobs. The end results is not the same at all. Why are you speaking about these things like you're knowledgeable on the matter when everyone can see you aren't?

What has being working class got to do with anything? I come from a working class family myself where neither of my parents went to university yet I wouldn't even consider going to Man Met.

hey don't knock MMU my partner works as a Lecturer ( and BTW is a blue as are a huge number of Staff & Students) its a great place for working class students because they care about building them up. They are pretty good with the wanna be posh and indignant too

When I met him he couldn't read or write and drank sterilised milk so makes him the ultimate working class man He went on an access course MMU offered him a place got a first with honours then a PHD I very much doubt if any other uni would have been as supportive .

The sad truth is graduates are leaving with huge debts and degrees that count for nothing unless its something specialised like engineering sport science medic stuff or fashion where there is a killing to be made if your good enough Oxford is no guarantee you wont end up doing doing stuff that 16 old office juniors used to do, photocopying or flogging anti virus software to people who dont own a computer

Final point going to uni should be fun if your determined to pay £27000 to learn to press collate and staple or say can I speak to the house holder please Id waste it in Manchester the best city in the UK
 
You might find student season cards are a little less than the rest of us because you have no money left after drinking and eating yourself silly.
Just get one and eat and drink less at Uni, or having failed to reach your grades, jump on a coach from a nearby supporters club for £10 to £20 per home game.
Britains future, just make a decision fella, it's not that hard...?!
 
its your parents fault for not being scottish,if you were born there you wouldnt pay fuck all ,us mugs would be subserdising you (as you can see by mis spelling i didnt go to uni)
 
Phate said:
Well Manchester is my Insurance, Firm choice is Oxford. Unless you want to claim that having a masters from Oxford won't give me a higher chance of employment (with better pay) than a degree at man met and a masters from elsewhere. It should be fairly obvious that the prestige on the name of my uni degree will be pretty damn important when it comes to the caliber of jobs I'll be able to get.

WOWZERS! All this vitriol and you haven't even STARTED your university degree yet. Your arrogance is almost as large as your belief in yourself to be constantly correct. You ought to fit in a treat at Oxford, hope you enjoy it there.

However can I take this opportunity to point something out to you? You do realise that a hell of a lot can happen in three years ...(or however long your course(s) is/are)... both on a personal level and in the larger context (look at the current situation regarding the world's economic climate for reference here if you need any.) If you watched the news or read the papers, you'd realise that jobs of any kind (ie - school leaver or university graduate) are not all that easy to come by at present and be under no illusion here, this situation will get much worse before it gets better and no amount of education will be a guarantee of a job, so I sincerely hope for the sake of your undoubtable self-belief and your unquestionable pride that no life changing event occurs to you or the world. What I'm really saying here is that nothing in this world is certain, nothing, so all your statements that read "I WILL" ought to actually read "I MIGHT" and this is an important point that you might need to take on board or I honestly fear for your future sanity.

Are you also aware that degrees are institute specific, I do hope you know this, so specific degrees need not be issued from what you considered to be a "top" university. Fortunately many employers are aware of this and are not simply swayed by the crest on the hard earned piece of paper ...(that you have to dress up like a muppet to be awarded)... they succeed in their industry due to the fact that they often have links with the universities and know which courses are the best, not which universities.

Also, I would like to point out to you that more often than not "it's not what you know but who you know" which may become more evident to you in later life as it is generally contacts that get you opportunities, not pieces of paper.

Add personality to this equation, by which I mean that if you come across as being a person that other established employees can easliy work with then you stand more chance of a having a successful career, much more of a chance than if you are an arrogant little cock.

My advice to you is this; do the degree(s) and don't blow your own trumpet too loudly, it gets you nowhere. There is a very fine line between confidence and arrogance, but the first of these characteristics often involves the person being slightly more humble than you appear to be. Quite frankly to be in possession of the attitude you so clearly possess at such a young age really appalls me.
 
Phate said:
GazC said:
Phate said:
I'm not sure of the exact structure of the old one but I thought it was similar (except threshold was £15000 and you only pay on earnings over that)?

Under this new repayment scheme people aren't being priced out which was my point and those that can't work out what they pay back probably shouldn't be going to uni anyway.

Nope, unfortunately it's a fixed percentage with no threshold, the benefit being you pay far less back in interest and as it's taken before tax anyway it's effect is negligible.

I agree with you on that point, but the graduate market has been over saturated since the nineties. Even going to Manchester won't set you apart from the field these days, dependent on your field, hence my comment about going to man met then completing a post grad at a more prestigious uni.

Ultimately the rbs, coop, British gas and e-sure call centres in Manchester are full of both manc and manc met graduates paying their way through post grad studies. If you think the name of the uni on your degree is going to open doors you need a rethink.

Well Manchester is my Insurance, Firm choice is Oxford. Unless you want to claim that having a masters from Oxford won't give me a higher chance of employment (with better pay) than a degree at man met and a masters from elsewhere. It should be fairly obvious that the prestige on the name of my uni degree will be pretty damn important when it comes to the caliber of jobs I'll be able to get.

You're talking in hope; I'm talking from experience.

Good luck to you, you've got an awful lot to learn before you even sit your A-Levels, never mind start University, graduate and then enter a competitive job market where you'll not only need a post-graduate qualification but also work experience to have the best chance of succeeding. Ultimately, even on the chance of you going into your chosen field with the best academic credentials possible there's still a very good chance you'll dislike it and end up learning a trade and being all the more happier for it - unfortunately people realise that the size of their mortage, car and disposable income isn't important and is by no means a guarantee of happiness.
 
GazC said:
Phate said:
GazC said:
Nope, unfortunately it's a fixed percentage with no threshold, the benefit being you pay far less back in interest and as it's taken before tax anyway it's effect is negligible.

I agree with you on that point, but the graduate market has been over saturated since the nineties. Even going to Manchester won't set you apart from the field these days, dependent on your field, hence my comment about going to man met then completing a post grad at a more prestigious uni.

Ultimately the rbs, coop, British gas and e-sure call centres in Manchester are full of both manc and manc met graduates paying their way through post grad studies. If you think the name of the uni on your degree is going to open doors you need a rethink.

Well Manchester is my Insurance, Firm choice is Oxford. Unless you want to claim that having a masters from Oxford won't give me a higher chance of employment (with better pay) than a degree at man met and a masters from elsewhere. It should be fairly obvious that the prestige on the name of my uni degree will be pretty damn important when it comes to the caliber of jobs I'll be able to get.

You're talking in hope; I'm talking from experience.

Good luck to you, you've got an awful lot to learn before you even sit your A-Levels, never mind start University, graduate and then enter a competitive job market where you'll not only need a post-graduate qualification but also work experience to have the best chance of succeeding. Ultimately, even on the chance of you going into your chosen field with the best academic credentials possible there's still a very good chance you'll dislike it and end up learning a trade and being all the more happier for it - unfortunately people realise that the size of their mortage, car and disposable income isn't important and is by no means a guarantee of happiness.

he has no idea about the massive change he'll make in the next year alone, everything changes, everything.
 

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