HH Sheikh Mansour congratulates City fans

[Eastlands]

Jesus, let it go!

I certainly will, but don't call me a horrible rag just because you dislike my opinions

 

[Gary James]

We've always questioned the motives of the owners and should continue to do so. We forced Swales out, Franny Lee took plenty of stick and I was at the forefront of the questioning of our direction under Wardle and that self-serving cock Mackintosh. They all had self-interest at the very top of their agenda.

We're the fans and while we may not own the club in any legal sense, it is very much "our" club. The major difference with these owners is that, as well as their self-interest, we've got something out of it this time. That's why I may question what people like David Conn, Colin Shindler and posters like Eastlands say, I fully accept their right to say it. We should always be vigilant about the future of our club.

Spot on. Although I am very supportive of where we are today and what the overall plans are it is vital we continue to question our leaders and the direction. One of the biggest issues in the 80s and 90s was that we'd taken our eye off the ball at some point after the successes of the Mercer Allison years and allowed Swales & Co. to do what thy wanted with the club. His early years appeared good and he did lots of great stuff with the supporters club of that time, but that led to a situation where it was difficult for some to question him... And we all know how it all panned out. Even though everything appears positive, it is vital we focus on our pub and the long term.

I'm sure we'll be in a better position than most fans at other clubs, but it's important we remain focused on our own dreams, ambitions and finances. The Sheikh will inevitably make money out of he club eventually we should also recognise that - it'll be because of the growth of the club which some fans may not like.

 

[Gary James]

One last point, successful or not, Peter Swales who loved this club, put thousands of pounds of his personal wealth into Manchester City before he died. Ask yourself how much you have contributed?

Actually that's not true! Swales had ten shares when he became chairman and only bought a significant shareholding in the 80s when City's value was extremely low because of the relegations and debt that he had brought to the club - City was mainly profitable for the previous 4 decades or so before Swales and started making heavy losses during his time.

When he sold his shares in City they were worth much more than when he bought them.

He was never the majority shareholder either

 

[Lavinda Past]

One last point, successful or not, Peter Swales who loved this club, put thousands of pounds of his personal wealth into Manchester City before he died. Ask yourself how much you have contributed?

Actually that's not true! Swales had ten shares when he became chairman and only bought a significant shareholding in the 80s when City's value was extremely low because of the relegations and debt that he had brought to the club - City was mainly profitable for the previous 4 decades or so before Swales and started making heavy losses during his time.

When he sold his shares in City they were worth much more than when he bought them.

He was never the majority shareholder either

He had lovely hair though...

 

[Centurions]

.I've looked back at your previous posts and I sticking with the racist tag. There's something decidedly odd about your posts. .

I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday Mike after reading his bilge.

I'm afraid the same thing crossed my mind as well reading the "Bert Trautman, a Nazi trooper" comment. Bert Trautmann was a German Paratrooper, that doesn't make him a Nazi.
Over the years I've noticed some older people (I'm in my 50s BTW) are viciously racist without even realising that they are doing it. I guess they just haven't caught on that the world has changed and as far as our owners are concerned the middle east is changing as we speak. It's going to be a long and painful progress but they will change.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Jesus, let it go!

As campaigns go I will struggle to find a much more pointless one as long as I have a hole in my arse

 

[Mike N]

One last point, successful or not, Peter Swales who loved this club, put thousands of pounds of his personal wealth into Manchester City before he died. Ask yourself how much you have contributed?

Actually that's not true! Swales had ten shares when he became chairman and only bought a significant shareholding in the 80s when City's value was extremely low because of the relegations and debt that he had brought to the club - City was mainly profitable for the previous 4 decades or so before Swales and started making heavy losses during his time.

When he sold his shares in City they were worth much more than when he bought them.

He was never the majority shareholder either

So Eastlands the truth is that I, like every other fan on here, contributed more to our club than 'sheaded wheat' head.

Care to reply?

 

[Eastlands]

I hold my hands up to my lack of knowledge regarding Peter Swales financial input into City. I had got this impression on Bernard Halford's visit to an MCSC branch meeting when he was praising Swales on how much he loved City and how much he had put into the club. He obviously meant effort rather than money. I appologise for that mistake but I would not consider myself as having contributed more to City than Swales
I am also aware that Bernard Halford himself was disrepected as a 'Swales Lackey' in another thread on this site but I don't wish to enter that argument so I will finish with the point I originally tried to make and for which I was accused of being a 'Rag':

In a speech at United Arab Emirates University, Sheikh Mansourold his audience that the Blues were the club of the Arab world and that his tenure had raised the profile of Arab ownership overseas. The Deputy Prime Minister of the UAE also added that feasibility is the most important aspect of his ownership and thanks his involvement City’s popularity has soared in the UAE. He also told those gathered: “This is your club.”
WELL NO IT'S NOT - IT'S OUR CLUB That was my point Bye, Bye!

 

[ped]

I hold my hands up to my lack of knowledge regarding Peter Swales financial input into City. I had got this impression on Bernard Halford's visit to an MCSC branch meeting when he was praising Swales on how much he loved City and how much he had put into the club. He obviously meant effort rather than money. I appologise for that mistake but I would not consider myself as having contributed more to City than Swales
I am also aware that Bernard Halford himself was disrepected as a 'Swales Lackey' in another thread on this site but I don't wish to enter that argument so I will finish with the point I originally tried to make and for which I was accused of being a 'Rag':

In a speech at United Arab Emirates University, Sheikh Mansourold his audience that the Blues were the club of the Arab world and that his tenure had raised the profile of Arab ownership overseas. The Deputy Prime Minister of the UAE also added that feasibility is the most important aspect of his ownership and thanks his involvement City’s popularity has soared in the UAE. He also told those gathered: “This is your club.”
WELL NO IT'S NOT - IT'S OUR CLUB That was my point Bye, Bye!

ive been watching city for 50 years,i love this club with a passion,and am completely obsessed,but I don't feel I own it ,the alexander family did ,swales and bowler and co did,like wise wardle and now sheik Mansour,the man in the uae who has been a fan for 5 years has the same,ownership claim as me i,e sweet f.a,its now his club just as much as its mine,

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Well the Sheikh has put a billion in so it is definitely his Club and ours. I saw a group of fans from Abu Dhabi in our end at West Ham and Chelsea and they welcome to join the Blue masses.