Hiking thread

Johnny Mars Bar said:
I’m a keen hiker and responsible wild camper.

I think the national parks do it on purpose. Design the honeypot sites so all the “riff raff” just go to one place. Mam Tor, Bamford Edge, Dovestones etc. makes it easier to control.

The biggest example is Snowdonia. Snowden is like going to Blackpool pier, yet literally just over the valley you’ve got the Carneddau mountains which is about as empty and desolate a place as you’re going to get in this country. Fantastic area and you rarely see a soul.

I just hope that with foreign holidays back on the agenda our national parks aren’t wrecked like they have been over the last two summers. Thick horrible twats lighting barbecues, dropping litter and fly camping, giving responsible outdoors enthusiasts a bad name.
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Spot on about Snowden, I've heard of scuffles when people queue for the summit trig point.

Benny Rothman and the Right To Roam were correct to open up the fells, you see gangs of youth on Kinder Plateau bare chested with no kit. I know a lot of KMRT volunteers who have to give up valuable time to rescue this lot.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
I’m a keen hiker and responsible wild camper.

I think the national parks do it on purpose. Design the honeypot sites so all the “riff raff” just go to one place. Mam Tor, Bamford Edge, Dovestones etc. makes it easier to control.

The biggest example is Snowdonia. Snowden is like going to Blackpool pier, yet literally just over the valley you’ve got the Carneddau mountains which is about as empty and desolate a place as you’re going to get in this country. Fantastic area and you rarely see a soul.

I just hope that with foreign holidays back on the agenda our national parks aren’t wrecked like they have been over the last two summers. Thick horrible twats lighting barbecues, dropping litter and fly camping, giving responsible outdoors enthusiasts a bad name.
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Can I ask are these places dog friendly I’ve got an 11 month old cocker im racking up 150 plus a month on daily walks, which considering a year ago I’d be lucky to 30. Big thing is she will chase anything birds and stuff im not worried about but are there tonnes of sheep? I guess a long lead would be ok but the little bugger loves to run.
 
Mozzer said:
Spot on about Snowden, I've heard of scuffles when people queue for the summit trig point.

Benny Rothman and the Right To Roam were correct to open up the fells, you see gangs of youth on Kinder Plateau bare chested with no kit. I know a lot of KMRT volunteers who have to give up valuable time to rescue this lot.
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So many people don’t realise mountain rescue aren’t an ‘emergency service’ in the same way the police and ambulances are. It’s volunteers giving up their own time, kept going by donations.

Every time I see some story about twats in flip flops getting carted off a mountain through their own stupidity it makes my blood boil.

I’m not exactly Ranulph Feinnes but I know how to read a mountain forecast and know the limitations of my own abilities and equipment. Not difficult really, is it.

And LEAVE NO FUCKING TRACE you scruffs.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Can I ask are these places dog friendly I’ve got an 11 month old cocker im racking up 150 plus a month on daily walks, which considering a year ago I’d be lucky to 30. Big thing is she will chase anything birds and stuff im not worried about but are there tonnes of sheep? I guess a long lead would be ok but the little bugger loves to run.
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many rights of way pass through cattle and sheep pastures, dogs on leads is a must
 
Did Dovestone today and the Trinnacle via a scramble up Birchen Clough, and over to Chew reservoir. Planned to go on to Alphin Pike but it was just so incredibly windy. Chew reservoir was like Whitehaven at the beginning of a storm, white spray coming off it, and the wind was literally pushing me over in places, not good for a ridge walk, so shortened the day at 12 miles. I know it's always windy up there but today felt almost like something was angry on the tops.

Saw the air rescue heading back up to Birchen and Saddleworth Moor as I descended, sobering reminder.

I may do another disued railway walk next for a bit of variety.
 
This is an interesting read:
www.rewildingbritain.org.uk

What does rewilding look like?

Discover how rewilding can transform a degraded upland landscape.
www.rewildingbritain.org.uk www.rewildingbritain.org.uk

I’ve always thought our moorland looks empty and bleak (apart from in August when the heather blooms). It’s not supposed to look like it does. Britain was once almost fully woodland.

As it is now, most of our moorland is classed as ‘degraded’.

This is how we fair compared to the rest of Europe:
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Look at the difference in colour of the Peak District and Lake District on this map:
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What is now a bare open area will end up looking like this:
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Will make a difference to how the landscape will look when out hiking. Will be much nicer.
 
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Re-wilding will also help to reduce flooding further downstream of watersheds.
Tree line for Britain is around 2000ft I think.
The moorlands around the Manchester embayment were once covered in birch and hazel forests
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
This is an interesting read:
www.rewildingbritain.org.uk

What does rewilding look like?

Discover how rewilding can transform a degraded upland landscape.
www.rewildingbritain.org.uk www.rewildingbritain.org.uk

I’ve always thought our moorland looks empty and bleak (apart from in August when the heather blooms). It’s not supposed to look like it does. Britain was once almost fully woodland.

However, this is what it looks like now compared to the rest of Europe:
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Look at the difference in colour of the Peak District and Lake District on this map:
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What would be a bare open area will end up looking like this:
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Will make a difference to how the landscape will look when out hiking. Will be much nicer.
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We’ve got sheep grazing to thank for that, largely.

Check out the Moors for the Future Partnership - a national project (funded by the EU..!) to restore moorland peat bogs through planting miles and miles of sphagnum moss.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
We’ve got sheep grazing to thank for that, largely.

Check out the Moors for the Future Partnership - a national project (funded by the EU..!) to restore moorland peat bogs through planting miles and miles of sphagnum moss.
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And organising land for grouse shooting

www.rewildingbritain.org.uk

20% of national park land is nature-impoverished grouse moor

Nature-impoverished grouse moors cover our national parks, Rewilding Britain shows that wilder national parks can tackle the climate & nature crises
www.rewildingbritain.org.uk www.rewildingbritain.org.uk
 
Tuearts right boot said:
We'll be up there within the next couple of weeks. Got a holiday rental about 10 minutes away....the only problem is we only get to see the area in the winter as it's booked up. If you took those photos in a february storm you'd be lucky to stand upright....
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Yesterday the sun was beating down, but crikey, it was windy
We've fallen really lucky with the weather this week and only been rained on once when walking. All the rain has come at night or very early morning
 
Just booked a long weekend in Fort William with a view to scaling Ben Nevis mid-March. Any tips? Best time to set off, parking, clothing, food etc. Cheers.
 
JOGAMIGMOG said:
Just booked a long weekend in Fort William with a view to scaling Ben Nevis mid-March. Any tips? Best time to set off, parking, clothing, food etc. Cheers.
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From memory there’s plenty of parking at the base of the main tourist path. There will be snow up there and it will be cold. Take plenty of food drink and warm clothes add or lose as you need. It’s probably a 6-7 hour day so make sure you allow plenty of time. Hope you get good weather… the views are amazing.
 
GornikDaze said:
From memory there’s plenty of parking at the base of the main tourist path. There will be snow up there and it will be cold. Take plenty of food drink and warm clothes add or lose as you need. It’s probably a 6-7 hour day so make sure you allow plenty of time. Hope you get good weather… the views are amazing.
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Cheers Gornik.
 
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