Homeless City fan near Asda

[canyerdogputoutafire]

That’s happened to me to as I’ve got older. We talk to the one outside the old gas tower bottom of Briscoe lane, he always chats to our lad and remembers him and asks where he he is if not with me.

Couple of quid is fuck all to most of us on here but a blessing to them.

Well played on your generosity.

Speechless I’ve read some great posts on here but… that’s in the top ten . Got the girls and mum around me at moment ( it’s me birthday) but really made me sit up and think.
BM is a good place at times.

Happy birthday pal, and thank you for the advice in the other thread

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

To be fair, unlikely to be saving up for a mortgage is he?

If drugs and alcohol get them through the long, cold night, I consider it none of my business, as long as they aren't thieving it or hurting anybody else?

I tend to give someone who is civil and clearly down on their luck a few pennies and also some food?

Last winter, got speaking to a young girl called Lisa who was freezing whilst begging outside Sainsbury's in Sale.

Clearly had a drug problem but was so vulnerable.

Not sure why, but asked her if she wanted something to eat from Greggs and she asked for two steak bakes and a large hot chocolate.

Brought them back and she was so grateful. I went back inside Sainsbury's and bought her a tent, socks, couple of jumpers and some T-shirts.

Cost me a couple hundred and she started crying and asking me why, and I just said why not?

I have kids of my own and you never know how life will go, I'd hope if they were ever in trouble, someone would stop and try to help them.

Not a pop at you or anyone else, but I seem to be getting less judgemental of things since turning 50!!

So many people are just one or two paydays away from being in the same boat. Any of us can be dealt a bad hand at any moment. I try to put between £5-£10 worth of extra groceries in my trolley for the food bank every time I shop (which is every other day atm!). I hear of people that used to do the same who now have to use the food bank themselves.

The guy at Asda is a lovely lad. You’d have to be a special type of cynical to believe that’s the position he wants to be in. I don’t really talk to him. I see far better people than me chatting with him, giving him warm clothing and food. It genuinely gladdens my heart to see these acts in a shitty world. Makes me feel quite inadequate dropping a few quid in his cup and scurrying away quickly. Being part of the wage slave system isn’t easy. Being homeless certainly isn’t easy. I guess we’re all just trying to muddle through this existence the best way we can.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

To be fair, unlikely to be saving up for a mortgage is he?

If drugs and alcohol get them through the long, cold night, I consider it none of my business, as long as they aren't thieving it or hurting anybody else?

I tend to give someone who is civil and clearly down on their luck a few pennies and also some food?

Last winter, got speaking to a young girl called Lisa who was freezing whilst begging outside Sainsbury's in Sale.

Clearly had a drug problem but was so vulnerable.

Not sure why, but asked her if she wanted something to eat from Greggs and she asked for two steak bakes and a large hot chocolate.

Brought them back and she was so grateful. I went back inside Sainsbury's and bought her a tent, socks, couple of jumpers and some T-shirts.

Cost me a couple hundred and she started crying and asking me why, and I just said why not?

I have kids of my own and you never know how life will go, I'd hope if they were ever in trouble, someone would stop and try to help them.

Not a pop at you or anyone else, but I seem to be getting less judgemental of things since turning 50!!

Bump: That’s a lovely piece TH so true we can’t cure addiction but we can give immediate relief from the cold grind of living on the streets, giving without judging you will never know how much your intervention helped her.

 

[1961_vintage]

To be fair, unlikely to be saving up for a mortgage is he?

If drugs and alcohol get them through the long, cold night, I consider it none of my business, as long as they aren't thieving it or hurting anybody else?

I tend to give someone who is civil and clearly down on their luck a few pennies and also some food?

Last winter, got speaking to a young girl called Lisa who was freezing whilst begging outside Sainsbury's in Sale.

Clearly had a drug problem but was so vulnerable.

Not sure why, but asked her if she wanted something to eat from Greggs and she asked for two steak bakes and a large hot chocolate.

Brought them back and she was so grateful. I went back inside Sainsbury's and bought her a tent, socks, couple of jumpers and some T-shirts.

Cost me a couple hundred and she started crying and asking me why, and I just said why not?

I have kids of my own and you never know how life will go, I'd hope if they were ever in trouble, someone would stop and try to help them.

Not a pop at you or anyone else, but I seem to be getting less judgemental of things since turning 50!!

What an incredibly human thing to have done and a reminder for those of us that need it to try and do better for those that are living such desperate lives.

 

[Grassland Blue]

To be fair, unlikely to be saving up for a mortgage is he?

If drugs and alcohol get them through the long, cold night, I consider it none of my business, as long as they aren't thieving it or hurting anybody else?

I tend to give someone who is civil and clearly down on their luck a few pennies and also some food?

Last winter, got speaking to a young girl called Lisa who was freezing whilst begging outside Sainsbury's in Sale.

Clearly had a drug problem but was so vulnerable.

Not sure why, but asked her if she wanted something to eat from Greggs and she asked for two steak bakes and a large hot chocolate.

Brought them back and she was so grateful. I went back inside Sainsbury's and bought her a tent, socks, couple of jumpers and some T-shirts.

Cost me a couple hundred and she started crying and asking me why, and I just said why not?

I have kids of my own and you never know how life will go, I'd hope if they were ever in trouble, someone would stop and try to help them.

Not a pop at you or anyone else, but I seem to be getting less judgemental of things since turning 50!!

Well done.
It's wrong for anyone not to have a place to call home in this day and age.

 

[i kne albert davy]

He wasn't there again last night, hope he's ok. Out on streets can't be great for you in this weather.

 

[bluesteve1964]

He wasn't there again last night, hope he's ok. Out on streets can't be great for you in this weather.

He was there when we past about 730. Predicting a 2-1 City win!!! He should have been right if we could defend.

 

[i kne albert davy]

He was there when we past about 730. Predicting a 2-1 City win!!! He should have been right if we could defend.

About quarter to 8 we passed his spot next to the dustbin was vacant.

 

[ufo]

Instead of 'dropping a few bob in his cup'* buy him a sandwich/hot drink.

*will use it for drugs, alcohol.

I understand where you are coming from but never mix up empathy with your judgement .
Some people fall and can never get back no matter , it’s more like mental health crisis that needs more spot light. There are so many variables that you and I have zero idea.

 

[kismet]

To be fair, unlikely to be saving up for a mortgage is he?

If drugs and alcohol get them through the long, cold night, I consider it none of my business, as long as they aren't thieving it or hurting anybody else?

I tend to give someone who is civil and clearly down on their luck a few pennies and also some food?

Last winter, got speaking to a young girl called Lisa who was freezing whilst begging outside Sainsbury's in Sale.

Clearly had a drug problem but was so vulnerable.

Not sure why, but asked her if she wanted something to eat from Greggs and she asked for two steak bakes and a large hot chocolate.

Brought them back and she was so grateful. I went back inside Sainsbury's and bought her a tent, socks, couple of jumpers and some T-shirts.

Cost me a couple hundred and she started crying and asking me why, and I just said why not?

I have kids of my own and you never know how life will go, I'd hope if they were ever in trouble, someone would stop and try to help them.

Not a pop at you or anyone else, but I seem to be getting less judgemental of things since turning 50!!

Top man Tolmie

 

[MikeF]

To be fair, unlikely to be saving up for a mortgage is he?

If drugs and alcohol get them through the long, cold night, I consider it none of my business, as long as they aren't thieving it or hurting anybody else?

I tend to give someone who is civil and clearly down on their luck a few pennies and also some food?

Last winter, got speaking to a young girl called Lisa who was freezing whilst begging outside Sainsbury's in Sale.

Clearly had a drug problem but was so vulnerable.

Not sure why, but asked her if she wanted something to eat from Greggs and she asked for two steak bakes and a large hot chocolate.

Brought them back and she was so grateful. I went back inside Sainsbury's and bought her a tent, socks, couple of jumpers and some T-shirts.

Cost me a couple hundred and she started crying and asking me why, and I just said why not?

I have kids of my own and you never know how life will go, I'd hope if they were ever in trouble, someone would stop and try to help them.

Not a pop at you or anyone else, but I seem to be getting less judgemental of things since turning 50!!

That’s a heartwarming tale Tolmie.

There but the Grace of God, go I. They say you’re only one wage packet away from being made homeless. You could find yourself homeless if you split up with the missus/partner. Any number of reasons.

I find it deplorable/very upsetting that in a developed country we have homeless.

Having a declutter at the mo and took a couple of sleeping bags down to The Town House next to St Ann’s in Ashton last week. I had to compose myself when I got back in the car however ridiculous that sounds.

 

[fulabeer]

You are not helping him. You are stopping him getting the help he needs.
The help is there. He has chosen not to use it...because you are helping him.
The reason he manages to stay homeless is because he can get by.

If he had to steal, he would be quickly caught by the system. He would get the help he needs.

People are not heartless walking by. But they are made to feel this way.
Simple human nature exploited by beggars and conmen. Many are not even in need.

Glad the top blokes feel good giving them a few quid...not so much posting that on here though. (leave that to the Youtubers/bloggers)
If you really want to help (and not just to ease your conscience), then contact any homeless charity.
They need your help more. And can get that help to these people the right way.

The law needs changes to force this help. Sounds heartless, but it really isn't.

 

[Stephen230]

You are not helping him. You are stopping him getting the help he needs.
The help is there. He has chosen not to use it...because you are helping him.
The reason he manages to stay homeless is because he can get by.

If he had to steal, he would be quickly caught by the system. He would get the help he needs.

People are not heartless walking by. But they are made to feel this way.
Simple human nature exploited by beggars and conmen. Many are not even in need.

Glad the top blokes feel good giving them a few quid...not so much posting that on here though. (leave that to the Youtubers/bloggers)
If you really want to help (and not just to ease your conscience), then contact any homeless charity.
They need your help more. And can get that help to these people the right way.

The law needs changes to force this help. Sounds heartless, but it really isn't.

If you think homeless people who are on a constant cycle of being arrested, serving a short sentence and back out on the streets, get ‘the help they need’ once they get nicked, you’re living on cloud cuckoo land mate.

 

[calumdown]

You are not helping him.

If he had to steal, he would be quickly caught by the system. He would get the help he needs.

you genuinely believe that everyone should stop helping people out who are seriously down on their luck in order to force them to become thieves?

 

[calumdown]

there was a fella regularly outside my local aldi, in his late 50s i'd say.
a very gentle soul.

one day some wanker was giving him shit like why don't you get a fucking job instead of sitting there begging!

he was visibly upset by it.
he told me his story...

he worked as the cook in his mother's café.
it was a rented property.
they had a room each above it and just about made a living for decades but had been struggling to pay the rent.
then his mum died and the landlords kicked him out.

he tried to get work but with no fixed abode it proved impossible

he stayed in a homeless hostel at first but had to leave every morning with his belongings and wait till the evening, in line, in the hope of securing a bed for the night.

one evening he was too late and slept on the street.
he woke and realised that it was actually less stress than the cycle of worrying all day about a bed.

@fulabeer
do you think he would be better off if he was forced to become a shoplifter?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

That’s happened to me to as I’ve got older. We talk to the one outside the old gas tower bottom of Briscoe lane, he always chats to our lad and remembers him and asks where he he is if not with me.

Couple of quid is fuck all to most of us on here but a blessing to them.

Well played on your generosity.

Yeah I drop him some cash if I've got any I'm my pocket.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

You are not helping him. You are stopping him getting the help he needs.
The help is there. He has chosen not to use it...because you are helping him.
The reason he manages to stay homeless is because he can get by.

If he had to steal, he would be quickly caught by the system. He would get the help he needs.

People are not heartless walking by. But they are made to feel this way.
Simple human nature exploited by beggars and conmen. Many are not even in need.

Glad the top blokes feel good giving them a few quid...not so much posting that on here though. (leave that to the Youtubers/bloggers)
If you really want to help (and not just to ease your conscience), then contact any homeless charity.
They need your help more. And can get that help to these people the right way.

The law needs changes to force this help. Sounds heartless, but it really isn't.

You need some colour vision glasses, things aren't always black & white.

 

[Kemper Boyd]

Instead of 'dropping a few bob in his cup'* buy him a sandwich/hot drink.

*will use it for drugs, alcohol.

who gives a fuck he lives on the street out to make his life bit better

 

[moggymoz]

who gives a fuck he lives on the street out to make his life bit better

Erm, me, next question.

 

[Corky]

There is plenty of help in Manchester and wider GM and most beggars will say they or homeless whether they are or not and also a lot pretend they can't get benefits due to being homeless.

The A Bed Every Night night offer will have cut off times and differ by district, and if beds do run out in the coldest months when demand is highest, then a sit -up service is normally provided so no-one needs to be roofless. Some ABEN you will have your own room an can stay 24hrs a day.