PJM's We can work it out seems more apt in this case given his penchant for the Fab four.Bill,
I respect your posts and you seem like a very decent guy, but in this instance you are far wide of the mark, both in your paraphrasing of what I said and my personal thoughts on mental illness.
“Get a grip” and “show some backbone” were responses to the story that a man split from his wife and turned to the bottom of a pint pot every night. THAT was when his life went downhill!
I explained this in the first post.
As for the entire premise of a 13 yr old child of divorce now retelling her story on the radio, I can’t speak to veracity or accurate medical diagnoses.
Couples break up every day and both of them get on with it, as opposed to heading to the pub to fix their problems. THAT was the precipitating series of events. That CHOICE rightly gets no empathy from me.
Been around alcoholics and mental
Illness my whole life. They’re not the same thing, but one can destroy your life as easily as the other. Conflation of the two is a problem that needs separating and fixing.
Be well and listen to some Midnight Oil next time!
Where I agree that mental illness is a sad problem with some people,Chicago blue has a point to some degree lots of people blame mental illness as an excuse for not having a strong character and just getting on and solving whatever problems they come across.Stress is a positive thing and can get your adrenaline pumping but some cannot cope with the slightest setback and instead of finding a way to do things prefer to find a way not to . Society has lost its capacity to cope and has to be led by the noseI won't argue with you or issue any wrath but I'm sorry you have zero empathy for mental illness and even deny it's existence.
"Get a grip" "show some backbone" is probably the worst thing you could say to a sufferer.
‘who could sit at home every night alone ?’I just heard this doco on the radio, absolute true story. Heartbreaking really. Told by a young woman who it happened too.
Her Mum & Dad, when she was around 13 years old split up. The Father left the marital home as agreed and rented himself a small flat. The Father had a decent job in a bank, not a high earner but secure income. Apparently, this break-up was more motivated by the wife.
Anyway, after a few months the husband is really suffering from loneliness and misses his wife and kids a lot. Keeps turning up at his old house and eventually told to stop calling round by the wife.
Then, after a short period, he finds out she has got herself a new bloke who eventually moves in.
This now makes the Father even worse and for consolation he starts going to the pub every night, (who could sit at home every night alone ?) for some company and he finds that the booze relieves a lot of the way he is suffering mentally with depression. He starts drinking at home, result, alcoholism brought on by mental illness.
One day at work his boss is talking to him and can smell alcohol on his breath , this happens more than once and eventually he is told to go home.
A week later he is sacked.
His life spirals with depression and he drinks more. He is drunk most of the time. He stops paying rent, bills, all his savings go on booze and he winds up being evicted, becoming homeless.
His daughter is on a school outing one day and she see's her Dad, asleep on a town centre bench in daytime, with his few meagre belongings. She is too ashamed to tell her friends that he is her Dad.
Six months after that sighting, her Father was beaten up late one night by some drunken youths and died of his injuries. He was found dead in a small park.
This was a very decent family man. The daughter is heartbroken although she could do nothing to help her Dad as she was a school girl with no income.
She is still heartbroken and suffering to this day with her thoughts of her once wonderful and loving Dad. She cries a lot.
Anyway, hearing this story made me realize that it can happen to anyone and that drunk guy sitting in a doorway or under a bridge talking to himself, could be anybody, a bloke who has worked for many years and paid taxes, or an ex-soldier etc etc.
Someone's Dad.
Spot on. People have lost the meaning of the word resilience.Where I agree that mental illness is a sad problem with some people,Chicago blue has a point to some degree lots of people blame mental illness as an excuse for not having a strong character and just getting on and solving whatever problems they come across.Stress is a positive thing and can get your adrenaline pumping but some cannot cope with the slightest setback and instead of finding a way to do things prefer to find a way not to . Society has lost its capacity to cope and has to be led by the nose
Alas that is human nature, always going onIf someone is criticised these days ,instead of having a good look at themselves and thinking they might have a point and what can I do to change ,they instantly take offence blame everyone else and play the mental health card and this takes away from people who have real mental health problems
Well let's be honest, reality doesn't always come with a hug, although nowadays a lot expect it.I won't argue with you or issue any wrath but I'm sorry you have zero empathy for mental illness and even deny it's existence.
"Get a grip" "show some backbone" is probably the worst thing you could say to a sufferer.
‘who could sit at home every night alone ?’
Me!
Living alone is fantastic. I have a very peaceful life.