How can this be offside

[Blue Mooner]

offside end off

What's an "end off"?

Oh and here: <a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=270367&hilit=end+fact" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=5&t=270367&hilit=end+fact</a>

Sorry but that line isnt straight for one and secondly the ball has left dzekos boot so the image needs to be a few seconds before.

Irrespective the linesman could never have seen when the ball was kicked, which to my mind just goes to prove the referee and his assistants were looking for any reason not to give us decisions.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

We got lucky Saturday, unlucky Tuesday although looking at the pictures it hardly looks like the error of the century.

What the linesman and red didnt do was instruct our defenders to play like pub team players in the first 15 minutes

 

[ancoats]

We got lucky Saturday, unlucky Tuesday although looking at the pictures it hardly looks like the error of the century.

What the linesman and red didnt do was instruct our defenders to play like pub team players in the first 15 minutes

2nd that matey

we have been sloppy all season and not just in the champions league we should be looking at that first and sort out a settled back 4 for a start

 

[Manci7y]

I thought it was well onside until I saw the highlights where they froze it just as it was played (not the pic earlier).

He was offside, only slightly (his left foot) and there is no way the linesman could have spotted it but he was still right.

 

[kass_best]

It's quite depressing really that so few people still understand offside.

Wrong.

To be honest Vic I think the only thing that some people were confused about is that once play has passed the 2nd last opponent aka "the last man", it does not mean you can do what you like.

The stuff about not being able to pass to someone further forward than the ball is offside 101 and I am sure everyone gets that.

Exactly.

The problem is this.

When discussing offside in media and on live-TV people always refer the last outfield player as "the last player". According to the rules book, yeah I didn´t know myself, that is not correct.

The goalkeeper are 99% of the time the last defender. So blame media instead of the people listening to "experts" who 99,999% of the time is using the wrong words when commenting football on tv/radio.

 

[mcfcphil]

It's quite depressing really that so few people still understand offside.

Wrong.

To be honest Vic I think the only thing that some people were confused about is that once play has passed the 2nd last opponent aka "the last man", it does not mean you can do what you like.

The stuff about not being able to pass to someone further forward than the ball is offside 101 and I am sure everyone gets that.

Exactly.

The problem is this.

When discussing offside in media and on live-TV people always refer the last outfield player as "the last player". According to the rules book, yeah I didn´t know myself, that is not correct.

The goalkeeper are 99% of the time the last defender. So blame media instead of the people listening to "experts" who 99,999% of the time is using the wrong words when commenting football on tv/radio.

Gary lund goal for notts county that knocked us out of the FA cup was offside for that very reason - he was further forward than the goalie but because there was one defender ahead of him he was wrongly given onside.
Fucking pissed me off that did

 

[Deleted member 14625]

We got lucky Saturday, unlucky Tuesday although looking at the pictures it hardly looks like the error of the century.

What the linesman and red didnt do was instruct our defenders to play like pub team players in the first 15 minutes

They are my thoughts exactly. We should take responsibility for our own downfalls and move on, improve and make sure we're not left ruing incorrect decisions too much again by taking our own chances and defending properly.

 

[Carver]

Plenty of people saying 'When the ball leaves Dzeko's boot'.

The text of Law 11 is:

At the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team

in this case it's at the moment Dzeko makes contact with the ball to play it, not when it leaves his boot.

The line in the second graphic looks like it's been drawn level with Dzeko's knee, the ball could in fact be further away from the goal (you can't see it).

The referee's assistant (Lino) was right in both this & the Kevin Nolan case and I can't actually criticise them under the 'giving benefit of doubt to the attacking side' interpretation because they both made technically correct decisions.

 

[Carver]

It's quite depressing really that so few people still understand offside.

Wrong.

To be honest Vic I think the only thing that some people were confused about is that once play has passed the 2nd last opponent aka "the last man", it does not mean you can do what you like.

The stuff about not being able to pass to someone further forward than the ball is offside 101 and I am sure everyone gets that.

Exactly.


The problem is this.

When discussing offside in media and on live-TV people always refer the last outfield player as "the last player". According to the rules book, yeah I didn´t know myself, that is not correct.

The goalkeeper are 99% of the time the last defender. So blame media instead of the people listening to "experts" who 99,999% of the time is using the wrong words when commenting football on tv/radio.

Gary lund goal for notts county that knocked us out of the FA cup was offside for that very reason - he was further forward than the goalie but because there was one defender ahead of him he was wrongly given onside.
Fucking pissed me off that did

No he wasn't offside, he's not further forward than Coton when the ball is played.

It's unlikely that he's further forward than the ball, though it's off screen in the video. 4 min 25 sec.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acdX9XH20cw[/youtube]

Bartlett was in an offside position when Lund shot for the goal. Under the offside law in 1991 he would not have been penalised for interfering with play/ an opponent or seeking to gain an advantage

 

[mcfcphil]

Wrong.



Exactly.


The problem is this.

When discussing offside in media and on live-TV people always refer the last outfield player as "the last player". According to the rules book, yeah I didn´t know myself, that is not correct.

The goalkeeper are 99% of the time the last defender. So blame media instead of the people listening to "experts" who 99,999% of the time is using the wrong words when commenting football on tv/radio.

Gary lund goal for notts county that knocked us out of the FA cup was offside for that very reason - he was further forward than the goalie but because there was one defender ahead of him he was wrongly given onside.
Fucking pissed me off that did

No he wasn't offside, he's not further forward than Coton when the ball is played.

It's unlikely that he's further forward than the ball, though it's off screen in the video. 4 min 25 sec.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acdX9XH20cw[/youtube]

Bartlett was in an offside position when Lund shot for the goal. Under the offside law in 1991 he would not have been penalised for interfering with play/ an opponent or seeking to gain an advantage

When was interferring with play brought in? Thought it was after that?
It must have been the other player i was thinking of being in an offside position - hazy memory!!!