How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

given they have always boasted about how many people they have lifted out of taxation people have to remember that the people pushing for this are old Tory MP's and reporters in papers who owned by old wealthy people - its the rich and the donors that will benefit - nobody else will
Yep.
He's going through an unpleasant divorce and sounds like he's on the edge a little (and today's events won't help, after all 'Boris' got it done.
Tried to tell him the use of words like Woke, Metropolitan Elite (and all the other bingo words) were right wing (many undefinable) tropes/terms to flame up fake culture wars. Going off the back of the post on here the other week by Rascal. Metropolitan Elite (he used this about Manchester btw - he lives in the Midlands) was/is an anti-Semitic phrase. But the comeback is "Marxists' and Labour are full of anti-semites. From a life long labour support, thatcher hating guy....and there goes the radicalisation that's so powerful.

Tough this isn't it. We go back forever but I've not the stomach (patience really) for stuff like that.
 
Lord Frost and Braverman both exposed on Radio 4 about their lack of a post-Brexit plan. Very good at describing the world they want to live in but no idea of how to create it, and that is the reality behind the collapse of this government. The moral malaise was long acceptable but now that the economic excrement is hitting the fan, they are using that as an excuse to bow out.
 
All we see today: the rudderless chaos, the humiliating farce that is playing out, the fact we are a global laughing stock, and the frightening economic uncertainty that is developing before our eyes is as a result of that reckless, hubristic and utterly foolish vote to leave in 2016 - all of it - and I defy any **** to tell me otherwise.
 
All we see today: the rudderless chaos, the humiliating farce that is playing out, the fact we are a global laughing stock, and the frightening economic uncertainty that is developing before our eyes is as a result of that reckless, hubristic and utterly foolish vote to leave in 2016 - all of it - and I defy any **** to tell me otherwise.
It has now claimed three prime ministers and Johnson won’t be the last.
 
Lord Frost and Braverman both exposed on Radio 4 about their lack of a post-Brexit plan. Very good at describing the world they want to live in but no idea of how to create it, and that is the reality behind the collapse of this government. The moral malaise was long acceptable but now that the economic excrement is hitting the fan, they are using that as an excuse to bow out.
The subtle bullying of the BBC and many other voices has been constant. Will of the people. Criticism has been stifled and the art of debate has become one of intimidation, diversion, and anything else but talk grounded in reality. And the implication was always that Boris was a figure head to the whole thing. Without him, it likely falls. Confident, braying, taunting voices suddenly become hollow whisperrs. The pack will begin to scatter.

As a collective, it's likely that we'll be grateful that entire period of chaos, death and fear is over, and it will forever be associated with him.
 
The subtle bullying of the BBC and many other voices has been constant. Will of the people. Criticism has been stifled and the art of debate has become one of intimidation, diversion, and anything else but talk grounded in reality. And the implication was always that Boris was a figure head to the whole thing. Without him, it likely falls. Confident, braying, taunting voices suddenly become hollow whisperrs. The pack will begin to scatter.

As a collective, it's likely that we'll be grateful that entire period of chaos, death and fear is over, and it will forever be associated with him.
There was never a plan and Brexit will now tear the Conservatives apart. It is not over, it will go on for years, and the economic pain is just beginning. They’ll now rally round someone like Zahawi but I reckon it’ll be just as short a rule.
 

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