How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[Bodicoteblue]

Well, the creator and mentor is gone but the monster of brexit, his creation, is still chained up in the attic.
The figure head and chief puppet of the ERG and cheerleader for brexit is no longer there.
Who‘s going to take responsibility for it now?
Reet-smug has declared he has no intention of serving under any other PM, and other than him, the brexit wing is devoid of any personality, skill, and political nous.
The new leader is going to have to deal with it, and even they know that it is a disaster overshadowing the economic, political, and social future of this country.
I imagine that the new PM, whoever it is will wish that it didn’t exist - like so many of us do, but at some point the ‘B‘ beast will rattle its chains and demand attention- sooner rather than later I suspect.
That‘s if they can even acknowledge that it actually exists and isn’t just something made up to scare the children.

 

[supercity88]

Well, the creator and mentor is gone but the monster of brexit, his creation, is still chained up in the attic.
The figure head and chief puppet of the ERG and cheerleader for brexit is no longer there.
Who‘s going to take responsibility for it now?
Reet-smug has declared he has no intention of serving under any other PM, and other than him, the brexit wing is devoid of any personality, skill, and political nous.
The new leader is going to have to deal with it, and even they know that it is a disaster overshadowing the economic, political, and social future of this country.
I imagine that the new PM, whoever it is will wish that it didn’t exist - like so many of us do, but at some point the ‘B‘ beast will rattle its chains and demand attention- sooner rather than later I suspect.
That‘s if they can even acknowledge that it actually exists and isn’t just something made up to scare the children.

The Brexit vote was made predominantly by older generations who will be sat in their armchairs watching the carnage descend on the younger generations who opposed it. I'm not seeking to blame older people, their vote is their right. But the mess we are in will outlast the majority of those who were cheerleading for the leave campaign.

Funnily enough I had a heated debate/argument with my Mother in Law regarding voting. She suggested she knew better as she'd seen things before. She didn't agree with my suggestion that she hadn't seen us leave the EU before therefore had as much of an idea as I did on how that would turn out. She soaked up the Brexit bullshit of how much more money we could spend on the NHS - a lie. She then voted for Boris, somehow forgiving that lie, and fell for more lies. Corbyn the Venezuelan dictator would ruin us! No real insight into Boris' policies or Corbyn's for that matter. Don't let facts get in the way of an argument, nor a vote, apparently.

And here we are - all these years later. She's sick of Boris, she wants him out, she'll never vote Conservative again. Until, of course, she does.

 

[Chippy_boy]

oh and the economy is fucked because we voted to introduce economic sanctions on ourselves. The only country in the world ever to do that.

Twice. When you consider we insist on taking a "leadership position" on climate change, whilst watching China and the US pump out more CO2 per millisecond than we do in a year. And we get told to unplug our phone chargers? Fuck off.

 

[west didsblue]

Reet-smug has declared he has no intention of serving under any other PM, and other than him, the brexit wing is devoid of any personality, skill, and political nous.

Are you sure you're talking about the right person. I've never noticed any personality, skill or political nous from Mogg. Unless you count sneering contempt for oiks as personality. He asked Sun and Express readers to come up with Brexit opportunities as a demonstration of his political nous FFS. And as for skill, the only thing he appeared to be skilled at was being sycophantic enough to Johnson to be awarded a cabinet post. Expertise in sycophancy is hardly a skill to boast about.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Are you sure you're talking about the right person. I've never noticed any personality, skill or political nous from Mogg. Unless you count sneering contempt for oiks as personality. He asked Sun and Express readers to come up with Brexit opportunities as a demonstration of his political nous FFS. And as for skill, the only thing he appeared to be skilled at was being sycophantic enough to Johnson to be awarded a cabinet post. Expertise in sycophancy is hardly a skill to boast about.

Plus, he’s a noncey looking ****.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

The Brexit vote was made predominantly by older generations who will be sat in their armchairs watching the carnage descend on the younger generations who opposed it. I'm not seeking to blame older people, their vote is their right. But the mess we are in will outlast the majority of those who were cheerleading for the leave campaign.

Funnily enough I had a heated debate/argument with my Mother in Law regarding voting. She suggested she knew better as she'd seen things before. She didn't agree with my suggestion that she hadn't seen us leave the EU before therefore had as much of an idea as I did on how that would turn out. She soaked up the Brexit bullshit of how much more money we could spend on the NHS - a lie. She then voted for Boris, somehow forgiving that lie, and fell for more lies. Corbyn the Venezuelan dictator would ruin us! No real insight into Boris' policies or Corbyn's for that matter. Don't let facts get in the way of an argument, nor a vote, apparently.

And here we are - all these years later. She's sick of Boris, she wants him out, she'll never vote Conservative again. Until, of course, she does.

The old vote was ,I think, an expression of fear.
Fear of change and progress beyond your control can be a frightening thing and if you’re offered a way to recreate the time in your life when you had power and virility and strength, well, you’d jump at it safe in the mistaken belief that there would be fewer foreigners making our laws and fewer brown people hiding round every corner waiting to mug and rape you. Of course they can’t be proven wrong in this belief because as you say they probably won’t live to see the full consequences of their gullibility.
The young brexit vote, though, is the idea of the quick fix.
within hours of leaving the streets would be full of unicorns and we’d be raking it in from wonderful trade deals, and we’d have sovereignty of course, though I still can’t find anyone who knows precisely what that is.
Of course the stats show that very few young people did vote for it but that’s academic now.
We‘re stuck with it.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

Are you sure you're talking about the right person. I've never noticed any personality, skill or political nous from Mogg. Unless you count sneering contempt for oiks as personality. He asked Sun and Express readers to come up with Brexit opportunities as a demonstration of his political nous FFS. And as for skill, the only thing he appeared to be skilled at was being sycophantic enough to Johnson to be awarded a cabinet post. Expertise in sycophancy is hardly a skill to boast about.

I think what I meant was he was quite noticeable amongst the little grey men as he looks like, as the esteemed GDM puts it so well;
’a noncey looking ****’

 

[Magicpole]

Dear Lord, As the architect of the final Brexit fuck up pulls up his saggy arsed trousers, throws on his ill fitting jacket, tousled his hair, picks up his easy shag diary, stumbles out into infamy and historical disgrace, we look around, not with hope, rather an, oh fuck, what utter **** are they Tory bellends going to put up next?

They are all covered in his shit. And no matter how much the BBC and media try and dry lean them, I hope the country, and by that I mean yours, wisen up to these shiester bastards. Amen. Praise Jesus.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The old vote was ,I think, an expression of fear.
Fear of change and progress beyond your control can be a frightening thing and if you’re offered a way to recreate the time in your life when you had power and virility and strength, well, you’d jump at it safe in the mistaken belief that there would be fewer foreigners making our laws and fewer brown people hiding round every corner waiting to mug and rape you.

The irony of the above is that they voted for seismic, earth shattering, devastating change.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Dear Lord, As the architect of the final Brexit fuck up pulls up his saggy arsed trousers, throws on his ill fitting jacket, tousled his hair, picks up his easy shag diary, stumbles out into infamy and historical disgrace, we look around, not with hope, rather an, oh fuck, what utter **** are they Tory bellends going to put up next?

They are all covered in his shit. And no matter how much the BBC and media try and dry lean them, I hope the country, and by that I mean yours, wisen up to these shiester bastards. Amen. Praise Jesus.

Boris isn't/wasn't that arsed about brexit and seemed as surprised as anyone when leave won. Cameron just stuck him and Gove in charge of the leave campaign as insurance against any possibility of leave winning because Boris is a buffoon and gove is universally unpopular. I doubt he's any more arsed about 'getting brexit done' than he was about his garden bridge or any of his other failed projects - he was just after votes.