How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

It's been interesting listening to the government blaming the French for the queues in Dover. It's their 'revenge' for us leaving the EU, though no explanation as to how us leaving the EU has damaged them so irrepairably is ever forthcoming.

We voted leave in 2016, and France, Belgium and The Netherlands have invested in the infrastucture at their port facilities and engaged and trained more staff to help smooth the flow of traffic as it was obvious to them those improvements would be needed.

In the UK, we've done nothing, other than build a lorry park outside Ashford. The government refused funding to Dover Ports Authority so they could improve their facilities. The French, realising we hadn't enough customs officers to meet demand because insufficient numbers had been trained in the UK, offered to send us some of theirs, but the goverment turned their kind offer down.

We now have typical deflection from our government. A complete inability to plan ahead and forestall a problem they had been warned about for years, and it's not their fault. It's the French.

Maybe one day the people of this country will wake up and realise nobody in Europe cares we have left the EU. They don't need us, they are not missing our money, and they have no reason to avenge us.

It's a lack of understanding by our government of what brexit means that has caused the delays, not some fanciful paranoid notion of revenge by a bloc that is probably grateful we have left.
 
Vic said:
I don't see anything as deliberate - it's EU holidaymakers and lorry drivers affected too - but I have no idea why anyone would expect France or other EU countries to spend a lot of money to make things easy. Brexit was not their choice.
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I guess we’re into the realm of semantics, but deciding not to deploy even further resources to ease a problem that was not of their creation has a degree of intent which renders it deliberate - but as others, and you, have pointed out, why should they?

I actually find this finger pointing at the French to be truly reprehensible. They are merely bit part players in the wholly predictable farce that is unfolding before our eyes.

Own your fucking decisions. Own the fact that we’re a laughing stick as a nation. Own the fact that hubris, vanity and a lack of understanding how the modern world works have brought us to this point - and it’s going to continue to get worse.
 
bluethrunthru said:
UK chemicals don't like it

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The red tape argument was one that made me the most angry, around the time of the referendum, as it was obvious that in terms of our trading relationships with our closest neighbours, it was bound to increase significantly not decrease. No other possible outcome could withstand any objective scrutiny.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I guess we’re into the realm of semantics, but deciding not to deploy even further resources to ease a problem that was not of their creation has a degree of intent which renders it deliberate - but as others, and you, have pointed out, why should they?

I actually find this finger pointing at the French to be truly reprehensible. They are merely bit part players in the wholly predictable farce that is unfolding before our eyes.

Own your fucking decisions. Own the fact that we’re a laughing stick as a nation. Own the fact that hubris, vanity and a lack of understanding how the modern world works have brought us to this point - and it’s going to continue to get worse.
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I agree with the sentiment of your post although the French did offer more resources and were turned down by the U.K. government who in return blamed them for the delays.
 
NPBlue said:
It's been interesting listening to the government blaming the French for the queues in Dover. It's their 'revenge' for us leaving the EU, though no explanation as to how us leaving the EU has damaged them so irrepairably is ever forthcoming.

We voted leave in 2016, and France, Belgium and The Netherlands have invested in the infrastucture at their port facilities and engaged and trained more staff to help smooth the flow of traffic as it was obvious to them those improvements would be needed.

In the UK, we've done nothing, other than build a lorry park outside Ashford. The government refused funding to Dover Ports Authority so they could improve their facilities. The French, realising we hadn't enough customs officers to meet demand because insufficient numbers had been trained in the UK, offered to send us some of theirs, but the goverment turned their kind offer down.

We now have typical deflection from our government. A complete inability to plan ahead and forestall a problem they had been warned about for years, and it's not their fault. It's the French.

Maybe one day the people of this country will wake up and realise nobody in Europe cares we have left the EU. They don't need us, they are not missing our money, and they have no reason to avenge us.

It's a lack of understanding by our government of what brexit means that has caused the delays, not some fanciful paranoid notion of revenge by a bloc that is probably grateful we have left.
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It was always planned this way to do nothing and expect everyone else to pick up the pieces. When you have a rabid right press promoting the type of jingosim and gaslighting the public about this on a daily basis its not hard to see how they get away with it.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I see the usual suspects banging the drum for brexit are conspicuous by their absence from this thread. We warned you for two years all this would happen - own it you *****!
I'm going to trawl the old brexit threads and start a list of them, they should be held to account and made to justify their mess.
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You're a proper sad ****.
 
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