How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Gabriel said:
Indeed. I have a gnawing fear that the next two years will be sufficiently painful to see Labour returned with a small albeit workable majority, but then hubris kicks in and they fail to overhaul the system.
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I’m not sure it would be so much hubris as a cocktail of lust for power along with egregious short-term thinking. There will never be a better time to prevent the excesses of the last three years (in particular) occurring again. If they don’t seize the opportunity then they will be as culpable as the Tories for our national decline.

If it doesn’t happen after the 2024 election then we are truly fucked as a nation. We probably are anyway tbf, but we’ve got to try.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
I’m not sure it would be so much hubris as a cocktail of lust for power along with egregious short-term thinking. There will never be a better time to prevent the excesses of the last three years (in particular) occurring again. If they don’t seize the opportunity then they will be as culpable as the Tories for our national decline.

If it doesn’t happen after the 2024 election then we are truly fucked as a nation. We probably are anyway tbf, but we’ve got to try.
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Hubris in the sense that winning an outright majority may fill them with self-confidence and lead them to think, mistakenly, that the system therefore doesn’t need changing.

Concur with the rest.
 
mexico1970 said:
Imagine a country not dominated by these Tory PM puppets? Not far to go really and to be honest I am quite looking forward to a change.
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I’m on record here as saying that there simply has to be electoral reform to prevent such one-party domination, especially when that party lurches further in one direction. At the same time, I also recognise that, despite what recent polls predict, overturning the incumbent’s majority should not be taken as a given, no matter how intent the Conservatives appear on helping their opponents.
 
Gabriel said:
I’m on record here as saying that there simply has to be electoral reform to prevent such one-party domination, especially when that party lurches further in one direction. At the same time, I also recognise that, despite what recent polls predict, overturning the incumbent’s majority should not be taken as a given, no matter how intent the Conservatives appear on helping their opponents.
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Within that there should be a requirement that within the majority party any change of leader must result in a GE - If you think the last 3 PM's have been installed by party and a few members only its a farce - only Johnson won a mandate and that he won with lies
 
bluethrunthru said:
Within that there should be a requirement that within the majority party any change of leader must result in a GE - If you think the last 3 PM's have been installed by party and a few members only its a farce - only Johnson won a mandate and that he won with lies
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That‘s an understandable condition based on the experiences you mention, but it would also give the majority party in any coalition a power that it could abuse. For me, after electoral reform, the country would be better returning to the fixed term Parliament so that parties would be encouraged to cooperate. The country needs fewer elections and less uncertainty. Of course, coalitions will sometimes collapse, but then a professional civil service should be capable of keeping the machine running; thank goodness the Government has long respected and properly funded the civil service in the UK…

Lies or promises he was prevented from fulfilling? ;-)

I imagine that could form the basis of a history A level question in 2072.
 
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