How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

The only way Labour can approach it without getting the usual "it was a democratic vote" challenge will be if they, at the same time address the present voting system in this country.
 
Can we change the title of this thread to;
’Does anybody STILL think that this is the brexit that they voted for’?
 
This is exactly what people voted for.

It is certainly what we've all got.

A few of our absent Brexit champions maybe telling themselves that these times are a necessary evil to be endured,and given plenty of stoic resolve from us all,their glorious vision of better times will eventually bear fruit.

We're stuck with it anyway.
(Unless we had the money,and sense to fuck off abroad).
 
This is exactly what people voted for.
Some of the real hardcore nut jobs voted knowingly for this version, but I still think that most were duped by the simplistic fairytale version on the side of the bus with its unicorns, piles of dosh for the NHS, and silly notions of sovereignty, not realising that their vision never existed and never will. In that respect they got what they were voting for but they didn’t actually know what it was that they were voting for.
There will be some still amongst us who still think it’s a great idea just not being implemented properly but surely the shells must be falling from many eyes now that the ugly truth is rearing up in front of them.
 
Some of the real hardcore nut jobs voted knowingly for this version, but I still think that most were duped by the simplistic fairytale version on the side of the bus with its unicorns, piles of dosh for the NHS, and silly notions of sovereignty, not realising that their vision never existed and never will. In that respect they got what they were voting for but they didn’t actually know what it was that they were voting for.
There will be some still amongst us who still think it’s a great idea just not being implemented properly but surely the shells must be falling from many eyes now that the ugly truth is rearing up in front of them.
Well brexit isn't quite done (Irish border question)
but we have been done by brexit (and the tories!)
 
I think it's stupid to even try to evaluate it. Nobody saw the pandemic or the Russian invasion coming, and the problems that has caused. Either one of those would have created turmoil, let alone both of them right on top of one another so to expect us to be entering a wonderful new post-Brexit era right now is just absurd, and that's putting it nicely. It would have taken many years to see any real benefits even without all that.
 
I think it's stupid to even try to evaluate it. Nobody saw the pandemic or the Russian invasion coming, and the problems that has caused. Either one of those would have created turmoil, let alone both of them right on top of one another so to expect us to be entering a wonderful new post-Brexit era right now is just absurd, and that's putting it nicely. It would have taken many years to see any real benefits even without all that.

mate - when pushed on it just after the result before war and pestilence struck even Rees-Mogg said it was a 50 year project. Its a bust - always was going to be a bust - by the 50 year period was up most of the country would not have been alive when we were in the EU so could be told any old bollocks about how bad it was
 

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