How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

dickie davies said:
My one and only comment on Brexit in this thread
It is a widely held belief in Europe that Angela Merkel is equally responsible for Brexit as she wouldn't concede on a couple of EU reforms
If she'd allowed Cameron a small win then there would have been no Brexit
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Widely held? Na, that's bollocks. Truth is, majority of Europe had enough of the ongoing special rules the UK claimed for itself. It was your decision to be out, then. Don't blame the EU for own shortcomings. That's another thing a lot of the continent does not like about the UK.
 
Dage said:
Widely held? Na, that's bollocks. Truth is, majority of Europe had enough of the ongoing special rules the UK claimed for itself. It was your decision to be out, then. Don't blame the EU for own shortcomings. That's another thing a lot of the continent does not like about the UK.
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It’s actually embarrassing how little people can own their decisions in this country. Blaming the French for the queues in the summer being the apotheosis. Like it was a surprise that curtailing of freedom of movement would…..impact on our freedom of movement. It’s beyond parody.

Own your fucking decisions.
 
Dage said:
Widely held? Na, that's bollocks. Truth is, majority of Europe had enough of the ongoing special rules the UK claimed for itself. It was your decision to be out, then. Don't blame the EU for own shortcomings. That's another thing a lot of the continent does not like about the UK.
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Same going on with the NIP now.
DUP were DUPED by Johnson into agreeing and now decide that it’s the the EU’s intransigence that is at fault and not the fact that BREXIT never had a solution for NI, as was pointed out over and over by everyone down here.

But DUP now holding everyone to ransom because of their own blinkered one trick agenda and the UK government gone missing on the issue.

It’s all the EU’s fault though.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Same going on with the NIP now.
DUP were DUPED by Johnson into agreeing and now decide that it’s the the EU’s intransigence that is at fault and not the fact that BREXIT never had a solution for NI, as was pointed out over and over by everyone down here.

But DUP now holding everyone to ransom because of their own blinkered one trick agenda and the UK government gone missing on the issue.

It’s all the EU’s fault though.
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The whole thing is a complete and unnecessary fucking mess.
 
I get the impression labour aren't ruling out a conversation at the very least, over Brexit.
Agree it's not the time to really poke that nest, but surely that nest must be of diminished occupation by the day.

Once this disgraceful shitshow is removed from power and our collective arrogance permanently subdued (yeah....will take a couple of generations) perhaps the EU will treat discussions more seriously.
I guess I'm wondering how much nose we're cut off of our faces before the question is posed again to the population (but this time with far more detail and real life data from our withdrawal)?

If an about turn is more healthier for the nation then it surely needs to be considered.
What as the actual number of those total leave votes by the way?
 
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