How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[west didsblue]

There is no debate on here mate. You either toe the line or you get dogs abuse.

It’s all a bit sad really but very reminiscent of the behaviour of the brownshirts.

I don’t for a second believe it would be the same face to face in the real world but the internet brings out the worst in many, including myself at times.

Do you actually know what the brownshirts were?
It’s pretty fucking offensive labelling people in that way irrespective of your views on how they conduct their discussions.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

He probably came in to discuss and debate but that’s impossible on this forum with the Bluemoon brownshirts tbf.

I know….I know, I’m a thick racist gammon etc etc ;-)

No just easily misled :)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

There is no debate on here mate. You either toe the line or you get dogs abuse.

It’s all a bit sad really but very reminiscent of the behaviour of the brownshirts.

I don’t for a second believe it would be the same face to face in the real world but the internet brings out the worst in many, including myself at times.

Chapeau on the ‘toe’.

 

[SebastianBlue]

There is no debate on here mate. You either toe the line or you get dogs abuse.

It’s all a bit sad really but very reminiscent of the behaviour of the brownshirts.

I don’t for a second believe it would be the same face to face in the real world but the internet brings out the worst in many, including myself at times.

I think brownshirts is an extreme exaggeration.

I don’t think we have any Bluemoon brownshirts (what people do away from the virtual world of the forum is another story).

Perhaps we have some ‘ghost green and black fading hooped shirts’, though. They can be quite terrible in their own right. Nearly as bad as the ‘tequila sunrise shirt’ uprising of a few years ago.

 

[Gabriel]

Interesting lead in the Telegraph today, recognising, if not yet accepting, that a large body of the population is unlikely to be returning to the workforce. If lockdown has shown people that they can tailor their cloth and get by frugally rather than work, then the longer they remain out of the workforce- nearing three years now, the less likely they are to return. Going to be a challenge stimulating growth in such conditions.

 

[WRicko]

Carnt tell what’s going on with the discussion about who said what when around the different options but this was the problem with the original referendum. Of course Brexit was going to win given the forces in the press against remain. Then factor in the different version of Brexit. Needed a confirmation referendum or a second referendum on the options. Maybe a longer time frame was needed in which we moved further and further from the EU overtime. Even then wouldn’t have supported it but it would have at least been fair planned logical etc

 

[Didsbury Dave]

There is no debate on here mate. You either toe the line or you get dogs abuse.

It’s all a bit sad really but very reminiscent of the behaviour of the brownshirts.

I don’t for a second believe it would be the same face to face in the real world but the internet brings out the worst in many, including myself at times.

You got respect and praise actually for being man enough to admit you were wrong about Brexit.

 

[WRicko]

You just refuse to accept that soft brexit was an option supported by many, it was debated, discussed, theorised and even tabled, but the remainers shouted it down that it became a hard leave vs remain debate.

And you're so keen to label everyone who voted leave as "the enemy" it appears to consume your every waking moment. I bet you ask people in stores how they voted don't you. The new McCarthyism.

It was an option but in a way that makes Brexit and Brexitiers worse. They knew there were lots of options probably most or all that they would like less than remain. Most if not all had an idealistic version in mind that was not an option or even factually possible. What happened they ended up with a worse version than all the versions discussed and significantly worse than remain. How stupid is that

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

You just refuse to accept that soft brexit was an option supported by many, it was debated, discussed, theorised and even tabled, but the remainers shouted it down that it became a hard leave vs remain debate.

And you're so keen to label everyone who voted leave as "the enemy" it appears to consume your every waking moment. I bet you ask people in stores how they voted don't you. The new McCarthyism.

Turns out, soft Brexit was what we actually had, before we left. We could make our own laws, do independent trade deals, control our borders, subsidise state industries should we wish to so do, deport people who came in and didn’t have any plans to work, plus a whole raft of other things we were oft told we ‘couldn’t do’. We would also have had frictionless, free trade with our closest and highest value trading partners across the continent we all live on.
You blew that up and thought trade deals with ‘the rest of the world’ would make up for that loss. in a time of trying to reduce costs and carbon footprints you believed it’d somehow be cheaper and more green to trade with Australia than with France!

In many ways your position is much worse than the true believers, who suggest they didn’t care about any consequences of Brexit, because you have suggested you were aware of the likely economic consequences, which you thought would be mitigated by EFTA, and you still opted to jump.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

There is no debate on here mate. You either toe the line or you get dogs abuse.

It’s all a bit sad really but very reminiscent of the behaviour of the brownshirts.

I don’t for a second believe it would be the same face to face in the real world but the internet brings out the worst in many, including myself at times.

The brown shirts would be more in evidence on a Coventry City forum……. ;-)