No it hasn’t minimun wage is still minimum wage, minimum wage jobs before brexit are still minimum wage jobs. People didn’t come from the EU and earn less than minimum wage.The lives of the poor paid are not better than they were. Everything in your post is false.Agreed, you have lost free movement BUT as has been pointed out before free movement means cheap labour for scrupulous businesses. It also led to wage drops for people doing manual labour type jobs. So, it becomes an issue of balancing the benefits against the negatives. So, in effect, the loss of free movement has improved the lives of the poorer end of the job market. Granted though, probably no advantage for the wealthier middle class and rich but let's not worry about them they have enough advantages in life as it is.
Nobody else suggested anything about the SNP, only your good self, and if you care to read the opinions of those living in Scotland in the Scottish politics thread, then you will see that many of their opinions and voting intentions have changed in light of the 2016 result. I agree, there have long been issues in Northern Ireland, but that was not the point. The point was whether Brexit was better for the U.K. and in Ulster’s case it’s has reopened wounds that were slowly, very slowly healing. As far as I can see, Brexit has not strengthened the United Kingdom politically.The SNP are the ruling party of Scotland. What is their reason for existing if not independence? It's utter crazy to suggest otherwise. Granted, Brexit has given them another 'bullet point' to highlight but I doubt it's affected anyones voting intentions on independence at all.
Northern Irelands problems pre date brexit by a long, long way. If someone can come up with a permanent solution where everyone is happy then I would vote for it. But that 'anyone' does not exist, do they? I listened to a radio caller from Northern Ireland on 5 Live the other day, despite the presenter trying to get brexit into his rant the caller did not bite. He said there had been and still were unfinished issues in NI from the last 25 years so Labour, Tory, Pre Brexit, Post Brexit have led to very little change. As I said, if you can fix NI permanently, I will vote for you.
I tend to vote based on long term expectations rather than short term benefits. So, I like to think, if I was in charge we would have been a lot further down the line with our climate response. So my brexit vote was based on my preference for minimum government and the predicted long term data. The long term data suggests it ends well in the end but possibly not in our lifetimes! Bit like buying a more efficient boiler, which costs more now, but over the course of it's life ends up paying for itself (if you live long enough of course).
I think the England, Scotland, NI and Wales seperated votes can, as always, be twisted at least two ways. Yes, Scotland and NI voted to Remain, but England and Wales voted to Leave. Surely the English Nationalists would be shit stirring rather than the Scots if we had Remained based on some convoluted voting system. The fact is always that more people voted Leave than Remain.
Good luck in your search for an EU rule that no longer applies that has improved your life. Feel free to come out if retirement if you find one.Right guys, I'm retiring from this thread. It's taking up too much of my time and raising my blood pressure too much. I've enjoyed debating/arguing with you all, keeps the mind active. I intend to spend a bit more time rearing unicorns on my farm 'Sunlit Uplands'.
Agreed, you have lost free movement BUT as has been pointed out before free movement means cheap labour for scrupulous businesses. It also led to wage drops for people doing manual labour type jobs. So, it becomes an issue of balancing the benefits against the negatives. So, in effect, the loss of free movement has improved the lives of the poorer end of the job market. Granted though, probably no advantage for the wealthier middle class and rich but let's not worry about them they have enough advantages in life as it is.
The minimum wage is a sham, it is a typical neo liberal sop to the working class, that has been used as a baseline.No it hasn’t minimun wage is still minimum wage, minimum wage jobs before brexit are still minimum wage jobs. People didn’t come from the EU and earn less than minimum wage.The lives of the poor paid are not better than they were. Everything in your post is false.
he believes what he believes but knows fuck all of what he speaks
Yes, we will have a vote, will you be voting this lot out?Given the option, I voted for what I believe is best for the UK and it's people. That's what democracy is, surely?
Do you believe everything Cameron, Osborne, May etc say? Weren't they Tory royalty?
No, I paid very little attention to Nigel Farage. Unlike yourself it seems, why do you people always bring up racism? I honestly find most people treat other people exactly as they find them. As for bigots, the irony, have a look at the dictionary definition and then have a look in the mirror.
Passport colour, seriously? What colour do you want it to be, personally I don't care?
We have a vote every 5 years, so if we choose, we can choose not to be governed by Eton old boys?
We have a vote every 5 years so we can vote in a government that protects workers rights to any level we want?
The worst bit is that the EU deserted you and left you stranded on a small independent island off Europe. I do think they could have done a lot, lot more for their loyal subjects who went into battle for them. I feel your pain at that rejection, they really have treated you like shit.
Seems I won’t get a reply. What a shame, many responses could have been had.Yes, we will have a vote, will you be voting this lot out?