How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

How long did the veto last? I heard that voting was gonna be a majority vote. Has that come to pass yet or without the veto are countries just resorting to two fingering Brussels with stuff they don't like.

the veto was indefinite

Unless we agreed to abolish it

Just a reminder of the vetos that the UK held ..... but you already know this because you did the research before you voted Leave didn't you ?

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

But as I keep saying, Brexit hasn't been done. As you say yourself, Sunkak is now fighting to achieve something that Johnson had said had been completed, because Johnson was a charlatan under the thumb of his green pretty wife.

Sunak is trying to resolve the NI Protocol without destroying the Good Friday Peace agreement. How will this make anything better for those on the mainland? What you are seeing now with empty shelves and food shortages , the lack of staff in social care , leisure and nursing wont alter because we abolish part of the border in the Irish sea.


What you are seeing now is the Brexit you voted for.

 

[Gabriel]

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Just a reminder of the vetos that the UK held ..... but you already know this because you did the research before you voted Leave didn't you ?View attachment 70452

Who me? What gives you the impression I voted Leave?

And a veto is only a veto if you choose to exercise it! And I would not trust a UK government of any persuasion to choose not to exercise a veto if it suited. They would come up with an argument for a point a view which twelve months ago was diametrically opposed to the one they first espoused!

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

​ Disregard for UK growers had led to shortages, says horticulture group​

The Lea Valley Growers Association said that many tomato growers were forced to delay planting until February due to ‘low prices offered, high energy costs and the lack of skilled labour’. “Many growers have stopped growing vine tomatoes due to the labour involved and the diminishing returns,”...​

The takeaway from that is that in the event of any shortage of food grown by EU growers, they're going to export to the easiest countries to export to, and that's no longer the UK.

For what it’s worth Irish growers haven’t been able to fill the gap caused by the weather aspect in Spain and North Africa either.
A lot of the massive poly tunnel farms in North Dublin didn’t plant to capacity because of the rise in energy costs.
They expect to be able to supply the demand for tomatoes and cucumbers in the coming months however.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I don't think we were on a winner either way round. Being in the EU was never gonna win us anything. And the EU were never gonna let us benefit by a fuckin' drachma once we were out, and making sure we were paying an overly-fair share by staying in!

Sounds like your damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

Maybe your just ….. damned.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Maybe we are damned but either way the EU has to much power over the UK and any other country still within the Union. Hopefully we will have a solution to the Boris brexit agreement on NI today. I Can’t wait !

 

[Gabriel]

 

[bluethrunthru]

Just so you know what a mad box of frogs looks like

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Sounds like your damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

Maybe your just ….. damned.

Probably certainly!