How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

Yes, finally a thread about what to do about improving things rather than moaning about what has happened!

Contrary to what "some" people on here may think about my political leaning, i knew Brexit wouldn't go well.
I knew there would be a price to pay. That things would go downhill, at least for a while.
However, this was more to do with the people in power. If you don't have a leader with big balls and strength, then it was never going to work. We didn't, so there is no surprise on my part.
People here like to split people into Brexiteers and Remoaners. I class myself as an Inbetweener!

I have never been a fan of the European Union. It is a mishmash of self-serving countries masquerading a some sort of family. But a pack is stronger than a lone wolf!
As a trading pact, i thought it was good if not ideal. Some of the workers rights and protection it afforded was great for example. We also got back a lot of the money put in back as subsidies, so that was never an issue. Immigration needed to be better controlled, not stopped.
I was a fan of us dumping the pound. If we was part of the Union, then that should have went.
But they had other aspirations, and the directions some wanted it to go was worrying.
Allowing some Countries into the Union that shouldn't really be, was only to assert control and dominance over them. Some of the EU leaders were toxic and had their own personal agendas.

So there were parts i liked and parts about the Union i didn't.
I was hoping a near miss with the vote might have been enough to wake everybody up, and for the Union to make changes for the better.
However, being self employed, i like risks and like a challenge. So my attitude since was be positive and try and make it work. Others just seem to want to moan.
I buy from all over the world, so buying from the EU is no different (paperwork wise). I was hoping for more trading agreements to be done by now. Covid seems to have stalled some of them. Changing leader every few months hasn't helped.

So as for a solution.
Re-joining doesn't seem viable at the moment. We have seen recently the self-serving vindictiveness of the EU in all it's glory.
I cannot see anything they have done to make it attractive to re-join. It would be a hard sell if it was going to be on worse terms than before. So like the Remoaners, they need to let it go and work constructively to find a solution for the future. Without EU reforms, it's never going to work.

So at least for now, we should adopt the US dollar, align ourselves with them, and fill in the Channel Tunnel...There you go simple! :)
 
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It mystifies me why no-one is talking about the green aspects of re-engaging tradewise again freely with Europe - what ecological sense can it make to ship things 10,000 miles to the far east and down under instead of 1000 across mainland Europe? Why, when we need growth, don't we recognise that we can trigger the return of the 4% growth we lost because of Brexit, and solve the thorny N.Ireland issue at a stroke by re-engaging with Europe in some way. Personally, I'd want to get back in to the EU balls deep as we are far stronger politically and economically. Political re-education as to why Brexit has been so bad for the country should be shouted from the rooftops.
 
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‘’It would take decades to rejoin’’

Keep hearing this and it’s simply not true, if a party wants to rejoin it will happen. Politics can move fast.
The problem is that rejoin (and leave) are such emotive words. We can easily move towards a position that would be in effect rejoining or a 'brino' without too much difficulty if we just describe it as closer ties or an economic relationship or something.
 
It was absolutely insane to me that anyone living abroad would vote for Brexit. But then again, the most anti-immigrant places are always the towns the no immigrants want to go to. Like this classic...



Up here - Sunderland and Hartlepool - both massive Brexit and if you do a bit of googling both had about 3% of their populations born outside the UK. Thats all. Sunderland which is Nissan or a waste ground now has Nissan saying when rules of origin come in at the end of the year if its done on the present terms then the plant becomes unviable. And Hartlepool who were so annoyed at the impact on fishing - thats gone great too.
 
‘’It would take decades to rejoin’’

Keep hearing this and it’s simply not true, if a party wants to rejoin it will happen. Politics can move fast.
It will take decades because rejoin is not the same as remain. Look at Turkey, they started the process nearly 20 years ago and for many reasons they still haven't joined. There's no chance that the population will just accept rejoin at any price, no chance.

Rejoin will mean a negotiation to join and at the first pass that would likely mean taking the Euro amongst many other things compared to remain and that's where it will fall apart unless we can negotiate opt-outs. In reality virtually all of the energy for rejoin would be spent on negotiating how not to rejoin.... So really what is the point in rejoining?

A lot of people mistakenly believe that whilst we were in the EU we were 'given' freedoms to not take the Euro and so on but this isn't true. We had to negotiate our way out of certain aspects of the various treaties. The Major government had to negotiate the opt-out of Schengen and the Euro, it wasn't as though we just said no thanks.

Whilst in the EU we were better able to negotiate opt-outs but it's very different from outside. To be honest we would be better off negotiating some form of single market access/membership, I've always thought that EFTA would be a good fit for the UK. Obviously it would of been better to remain but that ship sailed 7 years ago.
 

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