We know that. The issue was that no-one stressed it before the referendum.This is from Full Fact
Was the EU referendum “advisory”? - Full Fact
A referendum can be legally non-binding but, arguably, politically binding.fullfact.org
The European Union Referendum Act 2015 didn’t say anything about implementing the result of the vote. It just provided that there should be one.
In other countries, referendums are often legally binding—for example, because the vote is on whether to amend the constitution. The UK, famously, doesn’t have a codified constitution.
A UK referendum will only have the force of law if the Act setting it up says so. In practical terms this would mean someone would be able to go to court to make the government implement the result. The Alternative Vote referendum in 2011, for example, was legally binding in this way.
So the European Referendum Act 2015 was drafted in such a way as to make the result of the referendum ''non binding'' and as the result was close and the number of non voters approx a third of the voting population the ''politicians'' could've refused to implement.
A more sensible approach would've been to put a minimum vote requirement of say 60% of the population (the same way the unions are treated) or a requirement that all countries in the UK union would have to vote leave (but that would be possibly more divisive.
How do we resolve the Brexit mess?
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Johnny Mars Bar
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Haha fucking hell, that's depressing and hilarious in equal measure.
What's "LOL, nah you're alright lads" in Swiss?
Johnny Mars Bar
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I read a lot of political and social science non-fiction and biographies.
Cameron's book has been on my Goodreads to-read list for ages but I just can't bring myself to wade through it, not sure my stomach can take it.
meltonblue
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Personally I was more irritated with him after reading it than I was before, which doesn’t tend to happen often for me when I read political books!
bluethrunthru
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Depends where it Switzerland you live - could be in Italian, German or French I think.
I never said it was not advisory but it was always painted as not advisoryThis is from Full Fact
Was the EU referendum “advisory”? - Full Fact
A referendum can be legally non-binding but, arguably, politically binding.
The European Union Referendum Act 2015 didn’t say anything about implementing the result of the vote. It just provided that there should be one.
In other countries, referendums are often legally binding—for example, because the vote is on whether to amend the constitution. The UK, famously, doesn’t have a codified constitution.
A UK referendum will only have the force of law if the Act setting it up says so. In practical terms this would mean someone would be able to go to court to make the government implement the result. The Alternative Vote referendum in 2011, for example, was legally binding in this way.
So the European Referendum Act 2015 was drafted in such a way as to make the result of the referendum ''non binding'' and as the result was close and the number of non voters approx a third of the voting population the ''politicians'' could've refused to implement.
A more sensible approach would've been to put a minimum vote requirement of say 60% of the population (the same way the unions are treated) or a requirement that all countries in the UK union would have to vote leave (but that would be possibly more divisive.
Personally I think we should have rather than a threshold should have had a longer period of doing things some sort of commission longer negations with EU then some sort of approval vote could then negotiate leaving and then have approval vote of that as Mogg originally suggested when he was trying to be sensible and reasonable and didn’t think Brexit would happen
bluethrunthru
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one thick fucker actually came home to shoot himself in the foot - nobody told him........... ? They did mate just people like you chose deliberately not to listen.
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My heart bleeds….
bluethrunthru
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Liar !!!!!
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I think a solution to the Ireland issue would be a hard border along the M57 with controlled exit/entry. This would mean no politically difficult border in Ireland or a logistically awkward one across the Irish sea.